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#1 Posted : 5/3/2021 11:34:59 AM

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Amongst many ancient "ressurection" rituals, a narcotic is consumed alongside an entheogen, egyptians seemed to have used blue lotus, whereas the eleusis mystery possibly used a distillation of ergot, ethylene gas also has been used amongst many narcotic plants, so, I am wondering if anybody here has personal experience combining Blue lotus with any classical hallucinogen and would care to share their experiences?
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#2 Posted : 5/4/2021 2:38:09 AM

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I often take blue lotus extract prior to disembarking, and almost always have it in a changa blend.

I find it extremely calming and increases my receptivity, opening me up. I find it helpful in mitigating preflight jitters.

I only have effects on the subtler side; relaxed, balanced, a little weird that's hard to describe but viewed (by me) as a benefit. At some point I want to try taking more extract to see what heavier effects are like. If positive, then will probably try a higher dose prior to blasting off as well.

You can steep the leaves to make tea, but it's pretty awful in taste imo.

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#3 Posted : 5/4/2021 6:01:52 AM

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Thanks! I have used it as a 10:1 extract at 1g dose, which produces a subtle but strong relaxation and lucid dissasosciation, but it dampened my sensitivity towards harmalas and Tryptamines considerably, I don't see many other reports suggesting a decrease in sensitivity, maybe I have to try it again, when I eat some mushrooms with harmalas and 1g of the lotus extract I'll report back.
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#4 Posted : 5/4/2021 6:17:29 PM

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Fruit is life wrote:
Thanks! I have used it as a 10:1 extract at 1g dose, which produces a subtle but strong relaxation and lucid dissasosciation, but it dampened my sensitivity towards harmalas and Tryptamines considerably, I don't see many other reports suggesting a decrease in sensitivity, maybe I have to try it again, when I eat some mushrooms with harmalas and 1g of the lotus extract I'll report back.


That's very interesting. I wonder what biochemical mechanism are are play in conjunction with blue lotus extract that diminishes your experience.

I look forward to hearing how your experiment goes. How much mushroom do you plan to take and what kind?

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#5 Posted : 5/4/2021 10:49:50 PM

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Possibly downregulation as one of the alkaloids in Lotus works on the cannabinoid system indirectly, I would also like to know though... And I will take 2.5g of freshly dried cubes with 100mg harmalas, I know how that is normally so will be easy to tell how Lotus effects me with that.
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#6 Posted : 5/5/2021 1:37:03 AM

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Possibly downregulation as one of the alkaloids in Lotus works on the cannabinoid system indirectly, I would also like to know though... And I will take 2.5g of freshly dried cubes with 100mg harmalas, I know how that is normally so will be easy to tell how Lotus effects me with that.


When do you plan on taking your experimental journey? Seeing as I have plenty of mushrooms and some fresh harmalas and plenty of blue lotus extract, I may join you... from a distance and in spirit of courseSmile

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#7 Posted : 5/26/2021 10:32:18 AM

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Sorry void I forgot to report back! I ended up taking 1g of 10:1 lotus extract and then a lemon tea out of 3g of cubes, the lotus added a distinct feeling of "distance" it was as if I was watching the experience from 3rd person, it removed much of the fear and anxiety during the come up, but it was still a little uncomfortable. I think I prefer psilocybin without the Influence of the lotus flower, I vaporized some cannabis on the comedown and layed down outside and looked into the stars, so special.. You can't be an astronomer without Tryptamines in your brain..I'm sure of that!
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#8 Posted : 5/27/2021 9:47:32 PM
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I was with some friends who where passing a long pipe around the fire one night... It was a Cannabis smoking blend with Blue Lotus and I forget what else. As a rule I don't smoke Cannabis but this was not a night for rules and I was also taking the opportunity to increase my tolerance for inhaling smoke. I held one modest inhale for a little while and could feel the Cannabis tickle in the background but I also noticed that if I kept my eyes closed I could tune in to very light visuals - like watching a TV with low contrast and brightness... It was a very pleasant and dreamy experience but I remained quite aware of my surroundings during the night. Anyway, thank you for the reminder to acquire some of my own Blue Lotus.
 
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#9 Posted : 5/28/2021 12:59:02 AM

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Fruit is life wrote:
Sorry void I forgot to report back! I ended up taking 1g of 10:1 lotus extract and then a lemon tea out of 3g of cubes, the lotus added a distinct feeling of "distance" it was as if I was watching the experience from 3rd person, it removed much of the fear and anxiety during the come up, but it was still a little uncomfortable. I think I prefer psilocybin without the Influence of the lotus flower, I vaporized some cannabis on the comedown and layed down outside and looked into the stars, so special.. You can't be an astronomer without Tryptamines in your brain..I'm sure of that!


That ending is one I've dove into myself. I love the sky. One time, while on 5g (I think, can't remember for sure) I was outside staring at the sky, where the clouds were swirling in front of the moon. At one point they opened and radiant lunar energy poured over me so heavily I fell to my knees. Then I closed my eyes, and there some very vivid and interesting visuals there...

Have you thought about trying maybe .5g of blue lotus instead? I think I'd enjoy the third person perspective experience.

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#10 Posted : 5/29/2021 9:16:12 AM

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Voidmatrix wrote:
Fruit is life wrote:
Sorry void I forgot to report back! I ended up taking 1g of 10:1 lotus extract and then a lemon tea out of 3g of cubes, the lotus added a distinct feeling of "distance" it was as if I was watching the experience from 3rd person, it removed much of the fear and anxiety during the come up, but it was still a little uncomfortable. I think I prefer psilocybin without the Influence of the lotus flower, I vaporized some cannabis on the comedown and layed down outside and looked into the stars, so special.. You can't be an astronomer without Tryptamines in your brain..I'm sure of that!


That ending is one I've dove into myself. I love the sky. One time, while on 5g (I think, can't remember for sure) I was outside staring at the sky, where the clouds were swirling in front of the moon. At one point they opened and radiant lunar energy poured over me so heavily I fell to my knees. Then I closed my eyes, and there some very vivid and interesting visuals there...

Have you thought about trying maybe .5g of blue lotus instead? I think I'd enjoy the third person perspective experience.

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I will have to try less, I think its good with higher doses, with vaporized DMT I imagine it would be great...I'll try that. I really enjoy blue lotus as a substitute for cannabis when my environment lends well to dissasoscation as it's more lucid then cannabis but similar in its relaxing quality, without the potential for lethargy and laziness cannabis often imparts on me...
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#11 Posted : 5/30/2021 2:55:53 AM

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As I smoke more DMT I find that I am smoking cannabis and concentrates less. I hadn't really considered smoking it [blue lotus] alone. I'd like to be more relaxed but still productive. I do still take in a fair amount of CBD, but find that more or less as you've described in your experience with blue lotus. This has given me an idea to experiment with smoking blends that have no DMT just to see what kinds of effects can be garnered.

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