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#1 Posted : 8/21/2020 1:22:11 PM

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While waiting for some litmus paper for the extraction, I'm going to put the cart before the horse and make a machine!

I don't have any experience whatsoever with vaping any substance, but in wondering what to do with my DMT I've decided to construct and use the Machine. I've got a basic idea of what needs to be done but I'm wondering what orientation is going to be easiest to work with and can't find many examples of The Machine in action. It looks like it is usually used with the mesh at the bottom or side - is there any reason not to have it on top and drawing down like a regular pipe? this would also let me put it down on its base - but I'm overthinking it, better to more or less copy what works. Out of all the machines I've seen on here so far, Cyb's vinegar bottle Machine is my favourite example; this one is inspired by that, but uses a metal straw instead of a glass stem for the mouthpiece.

I plan to drill a hole at the bottom of a ~150ml bottle (in this case a Frank's Red Hot sauce bottle - I was going to use a Tabasco sauce bottle I'd saved but my wonderful partner put it out with the recycling!) and glue on perhaps half of a stainless steel straw as a mouthpiece. I'll use some mesh to hold some steel wool in the neck of the bottle, in line with Cyb's design. Copper scourers aren't really available where I am. Here's the materials I have so far:



I've given the mesh and steel wool a good burn-off over the gas hob.

I used a 2mm drill bit and 6mm drill bit that I had on-hand to drill the hole with an old handheld drill, rinsing the hole with a trickle every time it warmed up enough to give off steam, about every 15 seconds or so. I broke the 2mm drill bit as it went through the glass and the chuck cracked the glass a little but not overly so, I was able to control the breakthrough with the 6mm drill bit. It took about 10 minutes of drilling. I've had a lot of experience with drilling ceramics but still wear gloves and glasses. The water kept dust to a minimum so a mask wasn't really required.

I used a dremel-like mini tool to smooth off the hole and enlarge it a little for the straw to fit in. I also used the mini tool to cut the stainless straw in about half.

For some reason the mesh seems to hold the wool in place even when it's inverted and shaken, but it can still be removed easily. I wound blu-tack along most of the length of the straw and dropped it in through the neck of the bottle, lined it up with the hole and pulled it through while rotating, then wound some blu-tack onto the other side once the length seemed about right. The mouthpiece flexes a little but stays airtight. I may replace it with a glue later. I made sure to use the original straw end as the mouthpiece tip rather than the cut end. The final result:



The curved straw sticking out a little stops it from rolling too far if put down. I plan to have a tray to drop in into in practice. I won't be able to test it until I've done a successful extraction, but at this point I'm happy with the final product.
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#2 Posted : 8/21/2020 1:30:28 PM

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Comments and suggestions are most welcome! I'll post a report of how it functions when it gets to that stage.

Thanks for reading.
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#3 Posted : 8/21/2020 1:49:28 PM

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I used to have one of these. It did work, but I hated it for a couple minor reasons.
For one, I could taste the steel wool in the vapor. The dmt would also tend to melt and run up the sides of the glass, resulting in waste. And I had a strange paranoia of CO inhalatation because of my lighter's yellow flame Rolling eyes

But for a first time it should be great (I say after writing a paragraph on why I don't use mine). The vapor is smooth, but be careful not to overheat it. When I first used mine, I just held the flame on the wool until the chamber filled with smoke, and I had a massive coughing fit. What you want to do is hold the flame a distance away and use the straw to draw the hot air in and through the wool. The vapor won't be a billowing cloud, but more like a whirling fog inside the glass. That will set you on your way nicely.
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#4 Posted : 8/22/2020 1:26:14 AM

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Thanks for the tips bismillah! It sounds like the trick is to draw the heat away from the flame without letting the flame ever touch the mesh/dmt, which sounds tricky compared to smoking cannabis. I don't keep lighters around after quitting cigarettes but I do have a gas-match style lighter I can use. I'm also interested in alternative ways to control the heat, such as a soldering iron or heat gun.

The mesh is from a used frypan cover and smelt like a BBQ when I burnt it off, doing a dry run it still tastes a little meaty! Seems a little metallic but not to the point of being unpleasant. I'll burn it off again as there shouldn't be any flavour at all if thoroughly cleaned.

I was worried about waste but it does sound like runoff and condensate can be recovered with a suitable solvent. Practice will make perfect though.

I'm aiming to follow the Lextek to hopefully produce freebase crystals, but it sounds like an acetate tincture is easier to apply to the scrubber for administration. If everything goes well I should end up with between 0.2-0.4g of DMT.
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#5 Posted : 8/22/2020 2:14:06 AM

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Making a tincture is overcomplicating things. If you heat the mesh a little, the freebase will melt as you sprinkle it on, and stick like glue.
Good luck in your travels!
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#6 Posted : 8/22/2020 12:59:58 PM

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My thoughts on the machine.

Buy a borosilicate pipe. A regular old glass pot pipe. I like the hammer shape for Brillo/dmt but pretty much any piece will do. Where I live you can buy one in any/every gas station or convenience store, starting at a couple bucks. It is made of boro and meant to be smoked from.

Prepare a plug of copper mesh from a BRAND NEW pad of Brillo, they have them in the Dollar Tree, three for a buck! No need to smoke the leavings from your fryerpan!

Place mesh plug snugly in bowl of pipe. When picking a pipe, get one with a bowl deep enough to hold mesh plug sturdy (some bowls are very shallow).

Ok. There you go. Now you've got a spice pipe.
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