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Freezing raw phalaris and yield Options
 
Ferrum
#1 Posted : 5/18/2020 3:12:19 AM

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So I know enzymatic degradation occurs on nn dmt within fresh grass soon after harvest . At least I've read such.

Has anyone ( and I'm sure some one may have analysied a sample ) tried freezing the raw cuttings , then began extraction and isolation , at a later date , after a moderate sample size has been collected ,without showing any reduction in nn dmt overall ?

I'm looking outside this post for answers , however I thought I'd also post to see if anything new has been found up to date on it . Ty
 

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#2 Posted : 5/18/2020 4:24:58 PM

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Likewise , immediate heating to denature any protein / enzymatic paths maybe ?
 
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#3 Posted : 5/20/2020 3:21:02 AM

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Following. Would love to know also. I would think a good drying in the oven like the defatting done to acacia would work...?
 
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#4 Posted : 5/20/2020 6:50:14 AM

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If you harvest Phalaris and freeze it within 1-2 hours after harvest you can still get decent yields.
You can even get decent yields with dried grass..
You'd wanna harvest a few pounds to get enough smokeable product.
For tea, smaller amounts work fine.
Be cautious, good luck.
 
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#5 Posted : 5/20/2020 3:45:17 PM

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Hey Chimp z, are you saying that drying does not cause a significant decrease in potency?

If not, would a quick oven dry bypass the enzymatic breakdown of tryptamines? Right now the weather itself feels like an oven where I live.
 
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#6 Posted : 5/22/2020 12:33:26 AM

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Ty . Chimp z , this is what I was looking for. Hey dithy , are you dithyramb from the old ayahuasca.com forums?
 
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#7 Posted : 5/23/2020 5:33:15 PM

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Hey Ferrum. Yes that's me. Do I know you?
 
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#8 Posted : 5/24/2020 1:30:08 AM

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I was on there for a long long time as jasonssong . I loved that site but sadly posts started going to zero . I remember your and Druids posts well . Small world . I always liked old crows poetry
 
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#9 Posted : 5/25/2020 7:10:01 PM

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Hey jasonssong! Nice to see you here. The ayahuasca forum had it's days, though I appreciate some parts of whatever droplets that continue.
 
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#10 Posted : 5/26/2020 1:23:08 AM

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My experience was with dried leaves and it was by far the most intense experience I I've ever had. Didn't even usr all that much,can't remember exactly how much but it wasn't more than a few ounces dried Turkey Red tea taken half an hour after a rue extract.
 
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#11 Posted : 5/26/2020 4:57:06 AM

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It' sure did , I loved that site . So many fantastic people ready to help and all digging for accurate and precise information about the plants and methods . Truely magical , don't be a stranger if you see me around here , I was really hoping it was you ! And you're right , it is prob overdue I go back and hear a few things too , of only for a little .


on yield I guess I'll freeze for now . I'm thinking the cellular rupturing may be an additional benefit to yield perhaps, if only slightly .
 
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#12 Posted : 5/26/2020 5:05:57 AM

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OmniSlug wrote:
My experience was with dried leaves and it was by far the most intense experience I I've ever had. Didn't even usr all that much,can't remember exactly how much but it wasn't more than a few ounces dried Turkey Red tea taken half an hour after a rue extract.



Ty. I guess it s maybe negligible then to freeze or not although I'll prob still do one or the other
 
 
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