Good day nexians, a friend of mine was planning on attempting a simple A/B extraction from MHRB using limonene, citric acid, and sodium carbonate. The extraction Tek is not his problem, I have a separate post regarding the Tek that he is planning on using. My question now is if it would be possible to, after separating the solvent layer from the aqueous layer in the extraction, put the solvent containing the alkaloids immediately onto a smoking blend and evaporate rather than evaporating, redissolving, and then mixing. Is there any reason that the dmt in the limonene would be not smokeable? Any reason limonene can't be used as the solvent for changa? Feedback would be very helpful.

I've never used D-Limonene for DMT extraction but I have used Limo for cactus and it dries to a gooey residue. As far as I know it will not evaporate completely. Even if you used clean evapping Naphtha it would soak into the herbs and would be probably be difficult to get that evapped fully.

D-Limonene, while a joy to work with has always been difficult to fully remove from the final result, in my experience. I doubt I'd want to vape it.

The best solvent I have used for Eleaf/Changa is 91% Isopropyl Alcohol.

Here is a relevant thread: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...mp;m=1007144#post1007144

Thanks for the reply. I'm aware that limonene leaves some residue but if my friend gets the steam distilled, food grade kind I can't imagine that smoking some small amount of what is essentially distilled orange oil would be particularly bad. My question is more about whether there's any particular reason to crystallize and redissolve (no matter the solvent) or if it would be feasible to go directly from extraction to changa. If there are any harmful substances present in limonene residue I haven't found them but if you know of any I may have missed I would appreciate being warned. Thanks again!

Well regarding food-safety, if you do not smoke overly doses of Limonene, it would not be toxic primarily. But you would have to swirl your Leave material inside of your Limonene-mix and this will never distribute the material evenly on the leaves, leading to a big variation of potency - which you also cannot see or detect when handling the leaves later on.

But the bigger problems are:

If you never go through a state where you have a crystaline compound, then you will NEVER be able to measure any dose and adjust any ratio of anything. Until the smoked effects are over you do not know anything about potency and it could be anything. While you may say "I wont care if its a little bit too much or too less" I would say: maybe this is true, but it is definetly (!) inconvenient to have all your processes become basically randomized.

Another problem that also Wolfnippletip said is: It will not evaporate completely and you do not know

A) how many actives are in there
B) the purity of anything in there - you could have a 3x amount of non-active material also inside
C) the amount of Limonene - it will be impossible to weigh the oily mess, but even if you get a real number, it wont mean anything ((

I can think that you may live in a place where you do not want to catch any undesired attention, which is a very common and logic thing, but it will make your results very inconsistent and also the process of experiencing your hard work.

And the last thing is that at a too big amount of Limonene, the mixture will start catching fire, as Limonene is flamable and of course this would ruin the flavor (not just in a cosmetic way, but it will be hard to hold anything from it in the lungs) and also the amount of vaped ingredients and at last it will become more unhealthy.

So this all sounds bad, but you could get around it by separating the Actives from the Limonene. I guess freeze precipitation would be the only easy way, but you would need to check out if it works along with Limonene.

Thanks for the reply! As you guessed, I do live somewhere where it would be best to not gain attention, but I didn't think of many of the things you brought up. I will have to separate the alkaloids from the limonene with vinegar and evaporate, then redissolve in alcohol and make changa.

You can check your other thread - pulling with vinegar from limonene will require 1 more step to be able to create Changa from that =/ But maybe it works.