Last night I drank a tea made from 4.5 g of whole rue seeds, waited a hour, and then smoked some moderate amount of DMT. I hadn't gone in feeling the tea at all, but on the other end I noticed that the DMT trip seemed never to end. 40 min after the hit I still had faint CEVs and I thought, "there's no way it can last this long". I was right—at that point I was in harmala territory.

I figure now I can relate to people with cerebral palsy.

My muscles tensed without my knowledge or consent, making me sore all over... Every little motion was an insurmountable task, and every object in my path a mountain. Getting up the stairs later that night must have taken me 15 minutes! And it was so hard to see. My whole field of view was tracing and bobbing and oozing in such a way that it felt like I was a GoPro being dangled from a string. The light of my phone screen, seeming discontent to be confined to its glass cage, would jump out to the sides, leaving a glowing smear in its wake.
(I imagined this was just my eyes twitching along with the rest of my body.)
Every sound was passing through a desk fan on its way to my brain, adding to the disorientation. And as the cherry-on-top, the whole thing came in waves—and relentlessly. I knew I was most likely fine, but it still felt like I was going to have a seizure. No wonder the faeries had been giggling at me an hour prior during my DMT trip. They must have known what I was in for!

On the bright side, though, wow—syrian rue would be a fantastic creative aid. At a lower dose, anyways. Everything I could imagine, I could immediately conjure up in full detail (much more so than on DMT). When I imagined a loud, piercing sound, my eardrums actually pulled tight. When I imagined someone's face, I saw them in front of me. And the music in my head refused to stop, although I didn't mind, as I was in awe of how clearly I could hear such complex, original material in my head.

Overall, this stuff is horrible and terrifying. Would recommend to a friend, would do again. Everyone harps on about how awful rue is (and tastes), but I think this stuff stands on its own as a powerful tool. I just took too much, and it was uncomfortably debilitating. It doesn't taste that bad at all, either. If not for the sourness of the concentrated lemon juice, the brew would be entirely palatable.

I enjoy rue alkaloids. I make a 3x tea from, say, 75 grams seeds. Combine, reduce, filter. Saturate with salt then put in fridge. The alkaloids will crash out. Then I dissolve these in warm water and base with sodium carbonate or sodium hydroxide. Again, the alkaloids will crash out, this time as freebase. At this point you've got reasonably purified harmala alkaloids. 160 mg of this freebase has been enough to inhibit mao for taking oral dmt, though I will usually go more towards 200 just to be sure. A small amount (20 mg or so, knifetip of a small pocket knife) sprinkled onto the tobacco of a rolled cigarette is a wonderful way to prep for vaping dmt. This is strong medicine. Old medicine. I cannot stand the taste of rue tea, ever since I overdid it one night when I was first working with the stuff. But, its nothing to throw 200 mg in my mouth and wash it down with a drink.

You don't realy need lemonjuice to get the desired effects. If you soak the seeds in warm water for a few hours, you will get the alkaloids without the toxins. It doesn't need to be hot water. Warm water will do.

Just did these today from some first run manske material I had laying around. Syrian Rue freebase using sodium hydroxide. Washed with clean water.

I don't mind the tea so much. The taste reminds you that it's medicine you're drinking
But I will have to try making freebase as well. Your process is much simpler than a lot of the guides online.

You don’t need to crush rue, or boil it with lemon juice, or any of that.

Throw 4 grams in a pot of water and boil for 10 minutes, then reduce to the size of a shot. Chuck the seeds out, take the shot. Done.

All that shit about crushing the seeds, and adding lemon juice, and boiling for long periods of time - completely unnecessary, just makes it taste even more like shit.

Also: you can smoke rue during mushrooms or ayahuasca trips and it will get you much higher, for about half an hour. Just throw them into a pipe or a bong, whole, and light up. Simple.

bismillah, all you have to do to remove the toxics from the rue is bake the seeds in an oven at 350 degrees for 17-20 minutes-- not only will nausea that many experience not take place, but the vasoconstrictors that are in the seeds are destroyed-- I've taken 4.5g ground up after baking and had no negative effects of any kind. The harmalas are unaffected, in my experience.

Also, the taste is FAR better-- it becomes like a peanut/chocolate taste, and when mixed with a fatty drink (I use coconut milk) the taste is very much improved over raw seeds.

I don't know if I got any toxins the other night. Usually when I ate the seeds crushed I'd get a low fever and feel a bit under-the-weather a few hours after. There was none of that this time; I think all the less enjoyable effects I got were purely from the harmalas (the muscle spasms were what made it uncomfortable).

I did boil the seeds whole this time, filtered and left it overnight for the nasties to sink to the bottom.

Haha love how you wrote that OP bismillah
Once it had me down so much, it was an unbearable task to just breath.
In lower amounts it is actually activating, deeper breathing and higher pulse.
So versatile...

Syrian Rue

“Overall, this stuff is horrible and terrifying. Would recommend to a friend. Would do again.”

Best line ever

"I can't believe people do this to themselves, on purpose, for fun"

No more than 4.5g?! The effects you're describing sounds like a much large dose to me; how did you prepare the tea?

Indeed, 4.5 to the dot, measured on my .000 scale.
I put the seeds in a pot with only enough water to fill it about 3/4 of an inch. Then I gave it half a lemon's worth of juice, boiled for an hour, and reduced. I repeated this once, but the second time the water didn't take much colour. In the end I reduced it to something like two shot glasses of liquid, which was easy to get down.

Man, that's crazy. Doing the same procedure and roughly the same dose I can't say I got anything close to that effect Seed potency/bodily resistance? Interesting stuff this plant stuff

Bismillah, were you practicing any of the maoi dietary preparation recommendations? That could be a factor also I believe.