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The process of alchemy was traditionally internal as well as external. As I perform my entheogenic extracts I find myself changing. I am much more knowledgeable, focused, efficient, organized, methodical and productive than when I began three months ago. It seems to take me three tries to successfully perform any extract but I have persisted and been rewarded for my efforts. Which is all a big excuse for this big Duh! Today I opened my cupboard to find a flask to use and found one with mystery crystals (I think they're crystals) on the bottom. This has to be either LSA, mescaline or DMT. Can anyone tell me what these crystals are?  (The solution is odorless and has a pH of about 12, which would rule out LSA)    peace Phaedris
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???? No way of knowing unless you know what you extracted. If you extracted mimosa, it can't be mesc. If you extracted cactus, it can't be dmt. So what did you start with?
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Derek
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thats 86% pure diacetylmorphine... gross "once youve locked yourself into a serious drug collection the tendency is to push it as far as you can..." - hunter s. thompson
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psilyguy wrote: ???? No way of knowing unless you know what you extracted. If you extracted mimosa, it can't be mesc. If you extracted cactus, it can't be dmt. So what did you start with? Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear in my original post. Recently I've done an LSA extraction with morning glory seeds using naphtha and ethanol; a DMT extraction using MHRB, naphtha and NaOH; and a mescaline extraction using San Pedro, xylene and NaOH. I don't know which of the three extractions this jar comes from. psychosisdoses wrote:
thats 86% pure diacetylmorphine... gross It isn't heroin because I haven't used any opiates for extraction. peace Phaedris
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Here's what it looks like after SWIM filtered 3x  peace Phaedris
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try it out a tinyamount and you'll know something ! Smell like tea n,n spirit !
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rOm wrote:try it out a tinyamount and you'll know something !
That'd be too easy  SWIM's voting for mescaline as it doesn't have much of a smell, so it can't be DMT. Anybody want to come over and test it?  peace MS
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I think hacxor helped SWIM figure it out. SWIM's brains a little foggy today cause she's been doing a little too much testing  It doesn't smell like DMT but, on the other hand, if it was from a mesc extraction it wouldn't crystalize at such a high pH (SWIM thinks). Mesc crystals have to be salted out with an acid solution. The free base form of mescaline looks like tar  OK, so it must be DMT. Holy sheit!  Nice little Christmas present! The pic above is from this very interesting San Pedro extraction tek: http://www.hipforums.com.../showthread.php?t=341437peace Phaedris
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I've never seen a DMT crystal form in that manner. What type of acid was used for the extraction? If it was DMT, great job! It's ice clear (another reason I doubt it's DMT). Looks more like square sugar crystals, but imposible to tell from those pics. Taste it, does it have the alkaloid bitterness? ThirdEyeVision ThirdEyeVision
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I am sure that Black goo is not freebase mescaline  Had he more quickly realized just who they were,he would have shown them more respect.Had he tried harder to fathom their brilliant minds,he would have taken more of their teachings to heart.Had he more clearly understood the purpose of their being,
he would have more vigorously tried to assist them.They were truly honorable; he was sadly prejudiced.
They were exceedingly well informed; he was grossly ignorant.They were totally indefatigable; he so often, and so quickly,gave up. Still, for many years there was a strong inter-species alliance between the Eleven-Eleven of the Half-way Realm, their Seraphic Associates,and their flesh-and-blood friend, a common mortal. Much was accomplished, many profited, and, there’s only one regret...They could have achieved so much more...
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ThirdEye, at a pH of 12 I didn't think it was wise to put it in my mouth. I used HCl.
anyways I tested and confirmed that it's DMT
glad to hear you solved your mystery solids. DMT Freebase is safe to taste, taste like shit, but safe. ThirdEyeVision
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Derek
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this is insane.. how would you not know what it is if you made it.. "once youve locked yourself into a serious drug collection the tendency is to push it as far as you can..." - hunter s. thompson
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I must be doing a really poor job of communicating.  Observant wrote:I am sure that Black goo is not freebase mescaline That picture IS freebase mescaline. Did you read the post? http://www.hipforums.com.../showthread.php?t=341437Or check out this: http://www.shroomery.org...wflat.php/Number/9873934or this: http://www.drugs-forum.c...m/showthread.php?t=89582The reason I posted the photo is to show that the basic (pH 12) solution can't have mescaline crystals because a) freebase mescaline looks like black tar and b) if SWIM converted the mescaline free base to a salt, the pH should be close to neutral (7). ThirdEyeVision wrote:
glad to hear you solved your mystery solids. DMT Freebase is safe to taste, taste like shit, but safe.
The crystals were still covered with a somewhat viscous liquid that was extremely alkaline and SWIM didn't think that would be safe to taste. DMT freebase is safe but only after you've evaporated the naphtha. Actually SWIM doesn't think it's a good idea to taste naphtha, xylene, or ANY nonpolar solution, especially with a ph of 12!  psychosisdoses wrote:this is insane..
how would you not know what it is if you made it..
SWIM performed several different extractions over a few months. Three mesc, three DMT and two LSA. This jar could theoretically been left over from any of the eight extractions. Somebody PLEASE humor me and tell me you understand?  <sigh> The DMT SWIM smoked wasn't from the crystals in the pics above. SWIM removed the filter from her Büchner funnel and placed it in a container to evaporate. The stuff left in the funnel turned yellow, which made SWIM sure it was DMT. This is what SWIM smoked:  SWIM put most of the crystals in heated up naphtha and tried to dissolve them. The idea is to add the supersaturated solution drop by drop to the already formed crystals to form super-sized crystals but the ones left on the filter still haven't fully evaporated  I guess the jury's still out on this one but I'll let you know how things work out. peace Phaedris
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that could be lye or fumaric acid for all i know how would we know from a picture and such vague descriptions personally... i would know what it is if i did it i do a bunch of extractions all at the same time "once youve locked yourself into a serious drug collection the tendency is to push it as far as you can..." - hunter s. thompson
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Like I said, the jury's still out... I cleaned out my VG, put in some fresh herb and another small sample of the Mystery Crystal and... nothing. My previous "false positive" was due to there being leftover spice in the bowl. So I've eliminated LSA and DMT... what's left is mesc. As I mentioned, the solution was highly alkaline, so I mixed in some acid water, mixed it up, and got a weird reading on my pH paper. I waited a day, and the same thing happened  Has anyone ever had this happen to them? At first I thought that (alkaline) crystals in the solution were causing the uneven pH spikes, but after sitting for a day  peace Phaedris
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Derek
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i simply dont understand how you dont know what it is "once youve locked yourself into a serious drug collection the tendency is to push it as far as you can..." - hunter s. thompson
~~~~~~~~...You are me and i am you, i will always be with you...~~~~~~~~IAmUsWeYouMe~~~~~~~~
‹maxzar100› YOU are like acid
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NaOH deposit (not crystal).
I have the same things at the bottom of my saturate NaOH water dropper bottle.
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I put the mystery crystals solution into a baking dish and allowed it to evaporate. The next morning there were WAY too many crystals to be the product of any of my extractions so I threw them out.  distopia wrote:NaOH deposit (not crystal).
I have the same things at the bottom of my saturate NaOH water dropper bottle.
distopia wins the prize!  peace Phaedris
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You just made me read your Links again . None of them Mentions adding a base ,so why should that tar contain any freebase ? Its just a simple ,tarry ,dried up ,tincture extraction , the alkaloids should still be in their plant salt form shouldnt they ? Or do you say cacti contain Freebase alkaloids ? Imho there are much better ways to extract cactus. and I have seen crystalline Mesc Freebase before , Looked waay different. Had he more quickly realized just who they were,he would have shown them more respect.Had he tried harder to fathom their brilliant minds,he would have taken more of their teachings to heart.Had he more clearly understood the purpose of their being,
he would have more vigorously tried to assist them.They were truly honorable; he was sadly prejudiced.
They were exceedingly well informed; he was grossly ignorant.They were totally indefatigable; he so often, and so quickly,gave up. Still, for many years there was a strong inter-species alliance between the Eleven-Eleven of the Half-way Realm, their Seraphic Associates,and their flesh-and-blood friend, a common mortal. Much was accomplished, many profited, and, there’s only one regret...They could have achieved so much more...
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