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Mister Sunday
#1 Posted : 2/15/2020 12:17:22 PM
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Never again will I attempt an extraction without filtering out the plant material and doing a defat! Some of the most horrid emulsions I've seen in the half dozen or so extraction s I've done and the countless pics I've looked at. Debating on whether I should throw some salt to it(first inclination, add heat(trying to stay away from that to keep fats out of crystals), or add more lye( pH already sitting between 12 and 13). What are your suggestions?
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#2 Posted : 2/15/2020 12:25:01 PM

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That looks like a real bummer! It seems like you already have an idea of what to do. More lye won’t hurt, I’ve heard many people say you can’t over base, and heat will help. If you pull to much junk, a re-x at the end will help that. What kind of material did you use?
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#3 Posted : 2/15/2020 1:17:10 PM

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How gentle did you mix your preparation? Also, how thin was your plant material grinded? From my experiences, i noticed bigger chunks(1mm) tend to float and create that kind of emulsion, although nothing comparable to this.
It usually gets better when you add the NPS, and as metta-morpheus said you can always re-x.
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#4 Posted : 2/15/2020 2:18:39 PM

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I am currently dealing with an emulsion that looks very similar. I collected the emulsion layer, put it in several layers of coffee filters, and pressed it like crazy to squeeze out the nps.
 
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#5 Posted : 2/15/2020 11:10:33 PM

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Just combine as many emulsion separation tricks as you can:
- make sure the soup isn't too thick, so maybe add water
- add NaOH and salt
- gently stir, and then let it rest
- heat the water to almost cooking point
- give it some time (best case 15 minutes, worst case a few days)
 
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#6 Posted : 2/16/2020 1:04:02 AM

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Salt has worked well for me in the past. I've read that salt somehow makes the water more polar, breaking the emulsion.
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#7 Posted : 2/18/2020 6:15:37 PM
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I added some salt, heated it up and put a gentle stir to it and got it to separate.the first pull looked like molasses and was an ugly peanut butter after it dried.
 
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I use to pull the emulsions with a turkey basterd and put it in another jar.. add a lot of water and base and it use to work out well then you can collect the nps.. But this is probably the worst ive seen haha..
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#9 Posted : 2/18/2020 11:08:39 PM
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I was looking at it thinking that I probably had a whole bunch of spice in the top of that.
 
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#10 Posted : 2/19/2020 1:40:24 AM

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STB FTW everytime. Powdered bark , water, lye in a HDPE jug. Mix thoroughly, I then add naptha and hot water bath the jug in a crockpot , agitating multiple times over the course of a couple of hours. Draw off the naptha and freeze precipitate. Repeat process until no more snowflakes fall out of the naptha.Re-x with 99% IPA or bestine.
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#11 Posted : 2/29/2020 6:17:16 AM

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@aetherbound same for me, i'm trying it for the first time today, very excited how it will work out. My previous two were kinda of disappointing but that did not yield because i try'd 10000 teks mixed into one, starting with not using any salt after acidifying and ending up with a fridge that smelled like a gas station. Now i did the ATB tek and i can't wait to see if it will snow tonight Very happy
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#12 Posted : 2/29/2020 10:42:18 AM

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the weather is looking very good Very happy, what a feeling, first time ever making coctails aswel, had to stop school before it even was a subject there lol, i feel like a kid discovering this amazing new course Very happy exhilarating if i might say :-). Don't know why i waited so long to take this step. Well i do know i was afraid messing with elements and blowing my house up ... but like everything, respect it, research it, try to understand and ... ^^

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#14 Posted : 3/3/2020 3:51:31 AM

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Merry xmass Very happy we got it Very happy
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#15 Posted : 3/3/2020 7:30:11 AM

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#16 Posted : 3/3/2020 8:44:37 AM

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Will do, the. main thing i have learned is ... patience and let nature form itself. Before i had the bad habit checking it out every x hours, this time i waited 2 days and ... Very happy smells like an old friend i haven't seen in a while Very happy
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#17 Posted : 3/9/2020 5:07:35 PM
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Mister Sunday wrote:
Never again will I attempt an extraction without filtering out the plant material and doing a defat! Some of the most horrid emulsions I've seen in the half dozen or so extraction s I've done and the countless pics I've looked at. Debating on whether I should throw some salt to it(first inclination, add heat(trying to stay away from that to keep fats out of crystals), or add more lye( pH already sitting between 12 and 13). What are your suggestions?


What did you do? I mean details, chemicals?

I use fine powder of Mimosa Hostilis bark. 100g with 100g NaOH. I use medical benzin and distilled water.

Sometimes, I shake it like hell, and I never got an emulsion. Was it NAFTA?
 
 
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