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#61 Posted : 2/11/2019 2:12:39 AM

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I find it intriguing that so many people begin to think this way after becoming involved with DMT. I published an article on this very subject a couple of years ago:

http://www.buildingalien...e_simulated_universe.pdf
 

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#62 Posted : 3/23/2019 5:19:21 AM

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The Traveler wrote:
AcaciaConfusedYah wrote:
The proposition: does the light used in the means of "observing" the photon interfere with the wave? We know about constructive and destructive interference... so. By using light to "observe," is it the light that interacts with itself that crashes the wave?

Here is an interesting thought experiment based on that principle: Wigner's friend

And some extra mind-pulling stuff: Quantum foam


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A few days after the post above, a preprint of a Wigner's friend experiment using entangled photons was submitted to arXiv (attached).

Title is "Experimental rejection of observer-independence in the quantum world"

We'll see if the paper is accepted and published after peer review. Here is a snippet from the conclusions:

Massimiliano Proietti, Alexander Pickston, Francesco Graffitti, Peter Barrow, Dmytro Kundys, Cyril Branciard, Martin Ringbauer, Alessandro Fedrizzi wrote:
... at least one of the three assumptions of free choice, locality, and observer-independent facts must fail.


Looks like we live in an interesting universe.
β€œ... (a) psychedelic substance occasionally causes psychotic behaviour in people who have not taken it.”
Excerpt from a McKenna talk transcript / audio.
 
AcaciaConfusedYah
#63 Posted : 3/23/2019 3:34:27 PM

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4 people or 2 people? Or 42 people? Oh, maybe fourty-six and 2.... just ahead of me. I've been pickin' my scabs again!

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Looks like we live in an interesting universe.


Yes! One of the more interesting places to be, IMO. Imagine if a universe didn't have these mysteries. That would be incredibly boring, IMO. Why would we even need "time" if there was only sameness? The uncertainty and ability to instantaneously change without direct expectation makes linearity interesting. I think this model - "the mysterious universe" - is one worth existing (if we even exist... at all) in and enjoying the contrast of progression vs. regression.

One step in the "wrong" direction might be the "right" step.

So, observer-independent: yeah, I still have too many questions. Observation is weird. The direct influence of an individual can be observed as "odd."

Short story time: In 2013, I spent a large portion of the summer mushroom hunting for wild edibles. I had heard of lactarius indigo before, yet never found them prior to that summer. Lactarius indigo has a beautiful blue mushroom body, and some people consider them desired as edible.

One day, I came across my first patch. Per typical, after picking a mushroom, I would smell the mushroom to see what smell is associated. This mushroom smelled like lemons and blueberries! It was very unique smelling. I collected a few and brought them home to my wife. I said, "Smell these! They smell like blueberries and lemons!" She smelled them and said, "wow! Those really do smell like blueberries and lemons!"

A week later, my friend Skids (nickname given to him in 10th grade - he ate pavement on a skateboard and had "skid marks" all over his face and body) and I were on a mushroom hunt. I found some lactarius indigo, and yelled for Skids to come check them out. I'd already picked one, smelling it, and said, "the mushrooms smell crazy! They smell like blueberries and lemons." He gave the mushroom a sniff, "Whoa! They do! That's wild!"

2 weeks later, I am on a mushroom hunt with my friend Seth (no nickname, just Seth); and guess what I found! Yeah, lactarius indigo. "These smell like blueberries and lemons." "Dang, they really do!"

A week later, mushroom hunt with Josh. Josh hunted mushrooms before I had started, and he'd told me about the color of lactarius indigo, but never mentioned any smell. Well, I found some more lactarius indigo, and did the usual. "These smell like blueberries and lemons!"...... (Josh takes a sniff) "No they don't. They smell like a mushroom." I was confused! "Are you sure, man? Every other person i've shown them to agrees with the smell." He replied, "well, I found them a few years back, and they've always just smelled like another mushroom." I raised the mushroom to my nose, no... definitely blueberries and lemons.

So, I asked him: "when you found them, were you alone or were you with anyone." "Alone, why?" "I'm just trying to figure this out, everyone else agrees that the smell is like blueberries and lemons..." but then, it occured to me....

In the event of wife, Skids, and Seth - I was the initial observer. I told them how it should smell. I didn't ask. Their expectations were not set until I set them. But, Josh... he was his own observer. He made his own conclusions, and neither of us would agree with the other - because, we observed a different phenomena from the same "observation."

Others just blindly trusted me. For them, lactarius indigo will always smell of blueberries and lemons (just as it does, for me). For Josh, he'll always smell, "just a mushroom." After all, Josh and I are two very similar people. I think that's why we got along so well. Maybe this is the VERY event that spawned my curiosity within suggestions and expectations. I began to wonder if "suggestions and expectations" had a larger role than the human mind. I began testing subtle experiments. Over time they grew into even weirder experiments.

So, looping back to these scientific experiments... if we're told something - do we expect it? Does our expectation exist due to carefully placed suggestions? If so - do some people gather expectation from observation or suggestion? If our expectation is based on suggestions - then yes, we're forfeiting the choice to choose. If expectations are based on observation, then that's between ourselves and everything we've ever experienced.

I am assuming that the lactarius indigo smells like blueberries and lemons, because when I first found it, I observed the color and compared it to the color of blueberries. For a brief moment, before smelling it, the thought of blueberries made me think of the blueberry lemon scones that my wife used to make... when I took that first smell... it locked that notion into place. They will always smell like blueberries and lemons... unless you're Josh - Then it's "just a mushroom." IMO, the "just a mushroom" approach seems much less exciting.

So. Two observations. Two different perspectives. When strong suggestions are made, by one we trust, expectations begin to shift towards that direction. If ideals are already "set," then it's all a matter of subjective opinion.

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Loveall
#64 Posted : 3/24/2019 11:58:43 PM

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Loveall wrote:
The Traveler wrote:
AcaciaConfusedYah wrote:
The proposition: does the light used in the means of "observing" the photon interfere with the wave? We know about constructive and destructive interference... so. By using light to "observe," is it the light that interacts with itself that crashes the wave?

Here is an interesting thought experiment based on that principle: Wigner's friend

And some extra mind-pulling stuff: Quantum foam


Kind regards,

The Traveler


A few days after the post above, a preprint of a Wigner's friend experiment using entangled photons was submitted to arXiv (attached).

Title is "Experimental rejection of observer-independence in the quantum world"

We'll see if the paper is accepted and published after peer review. Here is a snippet from the conclusions:

Massimiliano Proietti, Alexander Pickston, Francesco Graffitti, Peter Barrow, Dmytro Kundys, Cyril Branciard, Martin Ringbauer, Alessandro Fedrizzi wrote:
... at least one of the three assumptions of free choice, locality, and observer-independent facts must fail.


Looks like we live in an interesting universe.


FYI, the article on the experimental test of Wigner's friend is being picked up by some news sources. Here is an example,

https://www.technologyre...g-as-objective-reality/


β€œ... (a) psychedelic substance occasionally causes psychotic behaviour in people who have not taken it.”
Excerpt from a McKenna talk transcript / audio.
 
Loveall
#65 Posted : 3/25/2019 2:36:17 AM

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From the news article above:

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β€œThe scientific method relies on facts, established through repeated measurements and agreed upon universally, independently of who observed them,” say Proietti and co. And yet in the same paper, they undermine this idea, perhaps fatally.

Surprised

I foresee a lot of Esalen institute talks on this. I call the hot tub! Laughing Thumbs up
β€œ... (a) psychedelic substance occasionally causes psychotic behaviour in people who have not taken it.”
Excerpt from a McKenna talk transcript / audio.
 
remyman612
#66 Posted : 4/23/2019 4:22:23 AM

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I promised to share my thoughts on this but held off on it since there's so much to digest on these four pages. Read through almost all of it; skimmed through most of the math stuff though!

All I can really say (and I've mentioned this to mjc a few times) is that I don't know jack about anything! While I've had the 'oh my god everything is a simulation' moment in my very first DMT breakthrough, I still don't know what to make of it. Perhaps someone/something is generating this 'reality' out of another 'reality' or maybe there is just this one reality which got started by the big bang and we're complex byproducts of that big bang. On the other hand, it might also be that I didn't exist until a few minutes/moments ago and my (memories of my) entire life have been written as if it was some kind of 'script'. I wouldn't know (and you wouldn't know either; heck you might not be real either Pleased)...

Or maybe I was 'simply' in a drug induced state where my brain tried to make sense of all the stuff going on with my serotonin receptor by 'showing' me some mix of memories/dreams/vivid imagery which I believed to be some sort of higher 'reality' (I have some issues with that word for a lot of obvious reasons). Not sure if one thing excludes another though.. it might be a mix of all of the above. Or it 'is' something that we can't currently wrap our tiny biological brains around since it's more complex and mind blowing than we can possible imagine/take in.

That being said, I've not had your experiences mjc (concerning bots/shape shifting forms) since I'm not you (unless I am, or we're all one.. which we might be.. or not?) so I can't really say anything meaningful about it (or about anything really Razz). I'd be pretty frightened if such things manifested itself in my (sober) (consensus) 'reality'. It seems like you're not; which is a good thing imho! However reality seems to manifest itself to you/through you I hope you do cherish your current physical existence on this plane Smile.

I used to think hard and long on these questions of 'reality' and came to the conclusion that I don't know jack about jack and I'll probably never will. And that's okay!

edit: thanks laughingcat for that article; it's a good read!
 
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#67 Posted : 4/23/2019 2:34:34 PM

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To the people who think reality is indeed a simulation: what do you think about the fact that we can so seemingly effortless, enter hyperspace? Does that mean that hyperspace is a simulation as well?
 
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#68 Posted : 7/10/2019 8:41:37 PM
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Hello all,

I was discussing this forum topic with some people from chat. After talking with some people on chat, they gave me some ideas on how to describe some things better about the information in this post.

In the first post, i claim that there are CGI robots and then there are human beings. CGI robots and human beings are exactly the same, except CGI robots have no souls attached to them.

A better way to describe this is that, what i claim to be CGI robots (no soul), are NPCs. Im sure many of you are familiar with the term NPC. NPC stands for non-playable character. It is a term used often in video games. It is a good way to describe what i mean by CGI robot.

So i believe a portion of the people you see out there in the world are actually just NPCs.

Thank for reading...
 
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#69 Posted : 7/11/2019 2:53:50 AM

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mjc490 wrote:
Hello all,

I was discussing this forum topic with some people from chat. After talking with some people on chat, they gave me some ideas on how to describe some things better about the information in this post.

In the first post, i claim that there are CGI robots and then there are human beings. CGI robots and human beings are exactly the same, except CGI robots have no souls attached to them.

A better way to describe this is that, what i claim to be CGI robots (no soul), are NPCs. Im sure many of you are familiar with the term NPC. NPC stands for non-playable character. It is a term used often in video games. It is a good way to describe what i mean by CGI robot.

So i believe a portion of the people you see out there in the world are actually just NPCs.

Thank for reading...


I think some people live in such a way that you could describe their actions as "NPC" in that they live their life scared of growth and change. But I think it does noone good to think that some people are just scripted programs. I would challenge you to seek out what you think might be an NPC and get to know them.
May wisdom permeate through your life.
 
dragonrider
#70 Posted : 7/11/2019 8:58:23 AM

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mjc490 wrote:
Hello all,

I was discussing this forum topic with some people from chat. After talking with some people on chat, they gave me some ideas on how to describe some things better about the information in this post.

In the first post, i claim that there are CGI robots and then there are human beings. CGI robots and human beings are exactly the same, except CGI robots have no souls attached to them.

A better way to describe this is that, what i claim to be CGI robots (no soul), are NPCs. Im sure many of you are familiar with the term NPC. NPC stands for non-playable character. It is a term used often in video games. It is a good way to describe what i mean by CGI robot.

So i believe a portion of the people you see out there in the world are actually just NPCs.

Thank for reading...

No. Everyone has a soul.
That they don't always stand out or behave unpredictably says nothing.
Some people are introvert. Some people are shy.

And also...why would anyone you see on the streets or the subway be motivated to demonstrate to you that they're not an NPC?
 
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#71 Posted : 1/15/2020 4:40:49 AM

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well I cant say I understand it all or even agree but I applaud you for being inquisitive/introspective? and thinking for yourself

cool ideas
"Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 
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