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bismillah
#1 Posted : 12/10/2019 3:41:05 PM

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Stumbled across a post where someone mentioned making a mimosa tea simply by putting some amount of bark material in a jar with some amount of cold water, shaking it, and leaving it for a week. This supposedly leaves intact some of the other psychoactive components of the bark which are destroyed / lost in extractions or hot brews.
Upon further searching, I found more posts talking about the same idea, but they were all terribly vague and non-descriptive (How much water was used? How much bark is a good dose? With or without harmalas?).

Based on what I've managed to find (not much), I assume 10g of jurema washed for a week with a cup - 2 cups of cold water, filtered, and then drunk with the typical 3g of rue is a moderately strong ayahuasca-ish experience. What do you think?
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#2 Posted : 12/11/2019 9:14:07 AM
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See last paragraph of this interesting primary citation. "Vinho da jurema" is a traditional prep. Requires more plant material, 25-35g, typically ingested without an adjunctive RIMA.

No teacher like, self bio-assay. Be careful!

https://catbull.com/alam...thek/1997_ott_7105_1.pdf

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#3 Posted : 12/11/2019 10:14:10 AM

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I posted about this, compiled from various posts, and also tried it. What I can say is that it tastes horrible (tannins). Couldn't drink.
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#4 Posted : 12/11/2019 12:33:59 PM

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Jonathan Ott did a lot of work with cold water extracts of MHRB and found them to be active without an MAOI.

In the article below he uses 25g of bark and extracts twice with 125ml cold tap water, soaking for 1 hour each.

https://erowid.org/plant...imosa/mimosa_info2.shtml

 
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#5 Posted : 12/11/2019 12:41:55 PM

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Just noticed Ott’s work is already mentioned above by Legarto Rey! Kindly ignore my contribution...Laughing
 
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#6 Posted : 12/11/2019 12:42:32 PM

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some one wrote:
I posted about this, compiled from various posts, and also tried it. What I can say is that it tastes horrible (tannins). Couldn't drink.


Have you tried adding honey? Sugar masks the taste of anything.
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#7 Posted : 12/11/2019 10:06:46 PM
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Fun topic, where ever the root takes us! MHRB, pulverized or powdered...BIG carrier! Kinda the deal with, DMT extract. Loaded!

Practice/learn, a RIMA tek that works for you. Henceforth, light bringing plants, WILL reveal themselves. Once so initiated, minor "doses" of DMT vehicles will shatter the realm. Honey? Can't hurt.

With sufficient RIMA, chacruna, chaliponga, MHRB, ACRB...and others, deliver.

About the Christmas season, these medicines, disintegrate the usual. Reintegration can be healthful around the Solstice!

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