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Fractalus
#1 Posted : 12/8/2019 9:34:25 AM

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hi dear nexians!
in ceremony, the dreamers drink 3 dosage and i wonder if its the same dosage as talk here in the nexus - around 72 grams of vine and 12-24 grams of hawaian chackruna or the same amount of herb devided in the 3 dosage?
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#2 Posted : 12/8/2019 9:44:37 AM

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It varies a lot.... And..
Most of Shamans dont use scalesPleased
In my cermonies a full dose is 2 cups consisting of 100g Caapi and 20g Chaliponga. And most people are satisfied after the first cup..
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Jees
#3 Posted : 12/8/2019 1:41:40 PM

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10 Gr dry chali for me and I'm truly set.
Not enough experience with chacruna ...

Eaglepath's doses are not for beginners, I've become his(/her?) personal disclaimer by now Big grin
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#4 Posted : 12/8/2019 2:03:19 PM

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If your brewing technique is efficient, then 50g caapi and 10g Hawaiian chacruna should be enough.

You may want to space them apart by, say, 10 minutes. Then if you're not feeling anything after an hour, eat something fatty, e.g. a slice of bread dipped in olive oil if your ceremonial protocol allows for that.
 
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#5 Posted : 12/8/2019 4:40:50 PM

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consolidate those 3 cups into one.

maybe tone it back in the chacruna if its strong, but the ingredients in those volumes equates roughly to a single dose.

caapi requires 60g or so minimum for full maoi, no point in drinking less for full effect.
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#6 Posted : 12/8/2019 4:54:59 PM

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Chaska wrote:
caapi requires 60g or so minimum for full maoi, no point in drinking less for full effect.

IME 40g can be more than enough. It depends on your vine.
 
Fractalus
#7 Posted : 12/8/2019 6:45:09 PM

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@Chaska - i Fix it, sorry for the spelling mistakes, english is not the language i was born to understand

@Jagube - yep, there is evidance and trip report of guys here of full maoi inhibation with 24-36 grams of vine


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it is through the heart that we recognize our spirits are one.

everything im writing is a complete fiction and it is only a reflection of my imagination.
 
Eaglepath
#8 Posted : 12/9/2019 7:08:27 AM

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Jees wrote:
10 Gr dry chali for me and I'm truly set.
Not enough experience with chacruna ...

Eaglepath's doses are not for beginners, I've become his(/her?) personal disclaimer by now Big grin
This is possible due the tuned avatar colours Pleased



HahahahahaLaughing

I am a heeee haha...

But I need to defend myself.. It was the old smurf that gave me the recipe.. It was one day when Gargamel was lurking around to be better prepared.. And after that we stick to these ratios.. Simply a little bit more smurfy!Pleased
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Jees
#9 Posted : 12/9/2019 2:47:23 PM

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^^^ that explains a lot, the old b*st*rd smurf brewer. Big grin

IIRC the general advice on the ayahuasca forum was about 50gr dry vine, and for the die hards 100 or so, or above.
 
tregar
#10 Posted : 1/16/2020 2:33:16 AM

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30 to 35g of Hawaiian chacruna here, have dreamed this dosage for years over 55 times. That amount of caapi is great or even much greater. Ocassionally I have rarely run into 20 to 25g doses that were really potent, and you will know as the taste of the leaf brew with it's bitterness.

Fractalus you are in great hands with psychotria and caapi, very traditional and extremely safe. Her divine spiritual awakening is infinite and forever. Just remember she is very trippy... and the frequency vibration you feel with the higher spiritual plane thru your whole body is mind blowing.
 
Fractalus
#11 Posted : 1/17/2020 1:17:47 PM

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tregar wrote:
That amount of caapi is great or even much greater.

you mean 72g right?

dreamed 260g of harmine\thh mix and after 20 min i felt like the time is slowing down and the whole expirience is "inhibit" just like the physical metabolizem, then dreamed 13g of the hawaiian chakruna and boy o boy...the visual part defenetly wasnt the stongest, even failry mild but the harmalas was wayyyy to much, cant move at all for most of the expirience and defenetly was the most bodyload that i ever dreamed..

next time ill get my hands on the holy cappi and double the amount of chakruna to 26g

though the minds may be different, the body forms may be different
it is through the heart that we recognize our spirits are one.

everything im writing is a complete fiction and it is only a reflection of my imagination.
 
 
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