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OneIsEros
#1 Posted : 11/19/2019 5:06:23 PM
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Mescaline is the most entactogenic of the classic psychedelics (DMT, psilocybin, LSD, and mescaline).

It is reasonable to speculate that because of this, it would be the one among those classic hallucinogens that would work best in a therapeutic setting. Less likelihood of freaking out, more of a “heart opening” trip - plus it’s natural, so authorities are less prejudiced against it (unlike with LSD).

And yet of the 4 classical psychedelics, it is psilocybin that is getting all the studies! What gives? The only two edges I see psilocybin having are: less nausea, and less time investment, but the time thing could actually be a plus, depending on how you looked at it...

I think mescaline deserves attention the most. Each one of the other three is way less amenable to a Western scientific therapeutic setting.
 

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#2 Posted : 11/19/2019 6:29:41 PM

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I agree. Mescaline is quite safe, both physically and psychologically, compared with the other three.
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#3 Posted : 11/19/2019 8:28:26 PM

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The medical model seems to require that 2 trained therapists attend to the patient during the trip. The duration of mescaline trips can vary based on dose. But even at moderate dosage levels it is not uncommon for someone to trip on mescaline for 12 hours. Those therapist bills add up pretty fast.

Also mescaline is the least popular and well understood of the 4 classic psychedelics. So chances are its the one that researchers will be least familiar with themselves.

And then there is the nausea factor.


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Just to be clear, I agree that mescaline has incredible therapeutic potential and is being overlooked. I just think it hasnt happened yet because of the reasons above.
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#4 Posted : 11/20/2019 12:18:37 AM

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They are all amazing and I just cant see how any of these can adapt themselves into a clinical setting. You think you are learning about mescaline only to discover mescaline is learning about you! You can think that clinically it should last 12-16hs...ends up lasting 34hs. Drugs are like cats, beautiful but unmpredictable and unreliable. Under what controlled settings can one loose control? Then again there does exist microdosing and such things.
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#5 Posted : 11/20/2019 7:53:33 AM
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FranLover wrote:
They are all amazing and I just cant see how any of these can adapt themselves into a clinical setting. You think you are learning about mescaline only to discover mescaline is learning about you! You can think that clinically it should last 12-16hs...ends up lasting 34hs. Drugs are like cats, beautiful but unmpredictable and unreliable. Under what controlled settings can one loose control? Then again there does exist microdosing and such things.


I actually have the same concerns, but, the preliminary studies seem promising.

They won’t be able to do anything too advanced, like shamans - but some eyeshades and some tunes seem to help with some things - fear of death, quitting smoking, basic shit like that. That seems within Western science’s capability, and hopefully with time and practice, those capabilities will expand.
 
 
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