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#1 Posted : 9/18/2019 7:16:39 PM

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5-meo to nn . Is there an easy way to cleave the methyl oxy group off ?
 

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#2 Posted : 9/18/2019 10:08:58 PM

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This question has been asked time and again, and the answer is still the same - NO. (And I don't mean "use nitric oxide" either.)
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#3 Posted : 9/19/2019 2:00:34 AM

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I was unaware . Can't blame me for trying . I did an initial search already. No much came up. So I gambled
 
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#4 Posted : 9/19/2019 4:11:40 PM

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not a chance.
The covalent forces binding the methoxy to the benzene ring are too strong. substitution and cyclization to a beta-carboline would occur well before the methoxy even budges.
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#5 Posted : 9/19/2019 10:25:37 PM

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I typed "removing methoxy" into the search function and found this:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...amp;m=903738#post903738

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#6 Posted : 9/19/2019 10:45:22 PM

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downwardsfromzero wrote:
I typed "removing methoxy" into the search function and found this:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...amp;m=903738#post903738

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lol yup

you might as well demethylate, convert to triflate, then instead of hydrogenolysis with palladium, just do some transition metal coupling chemistry and stick on a trifluoromethylthio (-SCF3) group instead. You run into just as much effort and difficultly converting into that as converting it into -H , believe me. haha. And then at least you'd have a novel DMT molecule on your hands

The better starting point is 5-Br-DMT Twisted Evil
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#7 Posted : 10/30/2019 8:56:45 PM

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I wonder why bother. 5-MeO-DMT is much more scarce than NN-DMT
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#8 Posted : 10/31/2019 5:48:46 PM

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...especially since it's much easier to go from tryptamine to NN than from 5-MeO to NN.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/1/2019 3:26:12 PM

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I don't see why either.Wut?
And I do'nt have the answer.

I mean you could dislike 5 meo and like n,n and want to change your 5 M into n,n...
But 5 meo is very thought after, you could prolly make someone happy with giving it away / trading.
Thing to try is rather go from Mexamine to 5 MeO.
Smell like tea n,n spirit !

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