Finally understand what breakthrough actually means!!!!!

I struggled with trying to understand what a breakthrough is and the saying "if you question it..well then your just not there" is totally true! I think for everyone this is different wich is what makes it so hard to understand just by reading others descriptions...it is truely something you just have to experience to know! So much confusion around trying to pin it down was this it or was that it? but i think it is best put in its simplest terms.... A BREAKTHROUGH IS SIMPLY JUST GETTING TO WHERE YOUR TRYING TO GO!!

It cant be reached by trying to measure what did i see...the "visuals" are a clue but not a law. So for me before this i always tried to gauge it by what i saw (i am a very visual learner) so i used the visuals as a "gauge" of how far i went...NOW realize that is neither here or there and back to what i said above for me it was simply just REACHING THE DESTINATION!

I started the day by talking to the "holy children" and truely wanting to learn to navigate the space so i could learn about myself...i tried taking away all outside "influence" turning off lights turning off sound ect...but struggled to grasp what i was trying to get at and dont get me wrong i was pritty far off but still not at the destination So i grabed the dab rig and some of the lovely "spiritual molecule" 2 hits and wow it was almost like i totally skipped the feeling of "blasting off" where you feel like your being propeled to your destination. that whole part wasnt even there it was like instantly i was there no travel needed! its like letting go of the struggle of getting there you just ARE THERE!! i have had many different trips that were profound and some much more visible than this i didnt need to meet a entity this time cause i simply was the entity. i was at one with myself and in turn the entire universe at the same time! my entire life i have always chased "more" especially with many different "drugs" this seemed like i wasnt chasing more cause i had everything! it was amazingly content. even not with "drugs" i have always wanted more for me learning was great there is always something more to learn....well lets say it like this i learned the ULTIMATE LAWS of the universe (and me) wich everything else abides by cause it HAS to!

I hope this may help some new people with thier journey and i TRUELY hope all of you will reach your destination!

Glad you had a good experience ... it’s funny how your always shown so much yet the knowledge that everything is connected and simply “is” is so utterly useless... it’s like beating an arcade game... when you finally understand and get to where your going in your journey your left just like... “well dang, guess that’s it” lol... but hey, you did it glad you had a good experience guy ✌️

YES! there is soo much knowledge to learn but when you really get to the core of the question as to WHY...it just is cause it has to be! otherwise there would be NOTHING...everything no matter how big or small has a VERY important role to play in the larger "organism" of the universe! i guess a huge part of this journey at least for me is finding what MY role in the universe is. I think that question has inspired EVERYTHING in human history good or evil! like i said everything even the seemingly "nothing less" is important...how could we see a star if there wasnt "nothing" as a backdrop! this is the "law of opposites" or "law of balence" (havent decided what to call it yet but wich is something i have been really diving into!)

One thing we have to remember is to say thanks for what we have discovered...usually i just say "thank you" after a moving trip this time i didnt think about it but what rolled off the tongue was "thank you, thank me, THANK ALL!" we are all connected

The breakthrough is the realization that your destiny shall be fulfilled, that you shall be released.

I agree with the statement that if you breakthrough, you’re definitely not asking yourself, “Did I breakthrough?”. If your questioning it, you’re not quite there. IMO.
Side note, I’ve never met entities on any of my breakthroughs. I don’t see crazy landscapes. I’ve just been submerged in this divine feeling of god like proportions, and floating through what I call Velvet Cotton Candy Land. Pretty much every time. Breakthroughs are tailored to each person, I believe.

I've been transported through space and time and visited worlds, met Gods, died and come back.

But if I ask myself if I have ever had a breakthrough I do not truly know. DMT seems to be so deep that there is always another layer. How broken is through?

Mhm, once you're over the hump to get [there], any further depth beyond that becomes more and more significant in it's contrast and overall delivery to you, it's overall profundity ime.

The depth of this experience seems to be based upon what you're able to handle, hang on to, remember &or comprehend. Though this can be a significantly tough feat.

Significantly tough is an understatement lol. I also think the experiences get more and more profound the more you invest in them. Don’t get me wrong.. early experiences can be very profound but once you start really believing in the things you see and delving deeper the experiences start to really take form... this could just be beliefs you form in your head pushing through and making the experience seem more profound though. At this point it’s hard to say tbh... I don’t really know what to believe anymore lol

Hi B225,

Yes friend it is about individually getting there but I think there might be a measure that is outside of how we normally measure events.

Through time I also smoalked and moved straight into hyperspace and once this occurred I never had a blastoff again.

A breakthrough in my philosophy has occurred when you come out of the experience and know something has been revealed to my ego that is so profound that it cannot be expressed in human language to other humans.

It is ineffable.

Explaining the inexplicable to humans was wasting my limited psychic energy.

So I stopped trying to tell those who don't know and revel in trying to with those who do.

Just me typing.

Also voted to promote.

Congratulations for a breakthrough to hyperspace and congratulations on a breakthrough in thought!

Perhaps, these two exist on the same plane?

I was pleased to read this today! Thank you!

Thanks guys yeh this was deffinitly a profound realization! not that other psychedelics haven't been profound just in a different way. I like to think of these plants and substances as a book just different chapters (bring that idea with you next time and see where it goes haha)

Youareweami…..I belive that all these "realms" are on the SAME "plane" if you ask how can 2 things be in 1 place at the same time. to me the answer is sooo damn simple...our sense's! normally through life we can only sense what we can see touch smell taste and hear (our emotions are a sense just dulled we don't have full access to them...might be why some emotions are hard to deal with) once you realise that if you just add a new sense you could "see" something that wasn't there before well then ALL is possible!! same reason why in my mind looking in and looking out are really the same thing.

breeze225, you are spot on. Its literally a "place" you visit, hyperspace. Once you have the awe-inspiring experience, you know instantly that you brokethru. Its just that profound.

That being said, I haven't brokethru yet on DMT (my DMT is weak, taste is hardcore, some fear of the breakthru) but I plan on getting there. Ive been semi-close and its an incredible experience. DMT is definitely special, alien, bizarre but in a profound, magical way. Its unreal. And once you hit the higher planes, it changes everything.

I have had that fear anxiety creep up even now after the 1st breakthrough....1 time my head felt like it was going to explode and ears poped and all that but it wasn't a breakthrough half way there maybe...that brought up fear again but realized if I didn't get back on the horse pritty quick I might never so jumped back on and bam a breakthrough these breathroughs are so many different levels its like I get to that place but each time I learn something a little bit more than I did last time levels of teaching I guess. I almost pissed my self once on a halfway there dose that was weird! the first couple journeys before the breakthrough I would stop breathing without realizing it and then my body would scream breathe!!! so that was a issue "will I stop breathing alltogather if I take more?" I found the key is TRUST you HAVE to trust in your self, the substance (I call it the vehicle), you have to trust your body will keep itself safe while your gone and you have to trust where your going is safe TRUST TRUST TRUST you have to give in to the anxiety and just go!