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Not sure if what I did is DMT - Moderate Effects at 5mg Options
 
freetumbleweed
#1 Posted : 7/21/2019 6:23:57 AM
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Apologies in advance for the long post, I'm very curious about what this stuff might be.

This was sold to me as DMT 6 years ago, and I've never had any other DMT to compare it to. I use the machine and I've always just eyeballed my doses because I didn't have a milligram scale, until just recently. Today I decided to actually weigh one of my doses. I put the puck of the machine on the weighing tray, and then loaded it up with an amount that I expected to give a moderately light trip. But it only ended up being 4-5mg. According to Erowid, that's a threshold dose. And according to people on various forum threads, that small of a dose should just be barely perceptible. However for me, it caused very noticeable psychedelic effects (full report at the bottom of the post).

The substance itself is off-white and powdery; mostly rather fine but it also has some small crystal-y flakes (kind of like koshering salt). The smell is hard to pin down, but it's reminiscent of mothballs with a hint of laundry detergent. A bit floral almost.

There are things a lot of people talk about with DMT that I've never experienced with this stuff such as: the carrier wave, the waiting room, the feeling of being ripped from my body, entities, or the chrysanthemum. I never feel like I'm being launched into hyperspace, and instead feel like I'm gently melting into a hyperspace that already exists all around and within me.

I've also never had a "breakthrough" with this stuff, or had the feeling of approaching a breakthrough but not being able to get to the other side (as I've heard some people describe). Even at the highest doses I've done, I've kept control over my physical body, been able to move around coordinatedly, and maintained some awareness of the environment around me if I choose to keep my eyes open.

Qualitatively, this has been my experience at different dosages ranges:

Threshold: just a cozy, melty body feel. Nice for cuddling, and sometimes a viable sleep aid. Very subtle visual changes.

Low: Body feel + visuals reminicient of shrooms, but with a more Aztec/South American or sometimes alien vibe.

Medium (I estimate this would be 5-10mg based on my recently measured dose): Moderate melty/stretchy body feel. Sometimes even a folding/geometric body feel. Human language and social constructs start to dissolve and I can no longer think in words. Man-made objects begin to seem foreign. Moderate open and closed eye visuals, flowing textures, seeing moving faces/animals in static textures, perspective distortions, rooms feel like they're being stretched. CEVs include moving South American or African-esque tapestries over vivid colors.

High: Body feel begins to merge with visual, auditory, and mental geometry to form a complex, synesthetic experience. All my sensory input feels like it's melting together into a psychedelic soup of perception. Existing from one moment to the next feels like navigating a labyrinth. The concepts of time and thought itself no longer make sense. Feels as if my body/consciousness is melting or folding into alternate realities that exist alongside ours. OEVs include extreme symmetrical pattern repetition and altered perception of ambient lighting, in addition to everything from the medium dose visuals. CEVs sometimes include vivid representations of places I've never seen but that feel very familiar (ex. a large glass greenhouse on another planet with a wooden chair in the middle and a reflective liquid running down the chair that flows in rounded-right angles and pools in diamonds). This stage is hard to explain because a lot of the feelings and experiences defy words.

My question is, does this sound like DMT? And if not that, what else could it be? Does anyone know of a way I could test to find out for sure what's in it? I really enjoy this stuff and I'd be sad if I tried to buy more DMT in the future only to find out that it's very different from this stuff I've been doing the past couple years.


Trip Report from a few days ago
PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set: neutral
(physical condition) Set: neutral
Setting (location): In my apartment, on my way out for a walk on a nice sunny day.
time of day: 6pm, sunny
recent drug use: Daily medications Bupropion XL 450mg, Estradiol 3mg, Progesterone 100mg
last meal: don't remember, likely 2-3 hours prior

PARTICIPANT
Gender: f
body weight: 68kg
known sensitivities:
history of use: Several years of prior experience with this substance and psychedelics in general

BIOASSAY

Substance(s): Unknown yellow powder sold as DMT
Dose(s): 4-5mg
Method of administration: vaporized with the machine


EFFECTS

Administration time: T=0:00
Duration: 12 minutes
First effects:
Peak: T=0:30-4:00
Come down: T=4:00-12:00
Baseline: T=12:00

Intensity (overall): 2
Evaluation / notes:


AFTER-EFFECTS

Hangover: 0
Afterglow: 0


REPORT

I smoked on my way out for a walk on a nice sunny day.
T=0:00-0:30 Really cozy, melty feeling that started as I exhaled my 2nd (and final) toke. The woodgrain on my door started shifting and flowing as I came up. Also a bit of a weird, tryptamine-y feeling reminiscent of mushrooms, but I didn't notice it much once I got walking.

T=0:30-1:00 My thoughts became less wordy and more abstract/instinctual. It felt like I was taking in raw, unfiltered sensory input without the normal lens of interpretation getting in the way. All of the human things in my house felt oddly foreign to look at, as if I were suddenly a reptile inhabiting this human-designed world.

T=1:00-4:00 Weird tiki statue-looking faces formed all over the walls and wood floor as I walked through my hallway. Some slight perspective warping, the most noticeable being that the hallway appeared to stretch out ahead of me. Outside, I saw a lot of symmetrical pattern repetition on the concrete sidewalk and trees.

T=4:00-12:00 Returning to baseline. The longest lasting effect was the symmetrical pattern repetition on the sidewalk.


 

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#2 Posted : 7/21/2019 9:47:58 AM

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5mg is a tiny dose, so the fact that you are seeing things that vivid supports that it is indeed DMT. You can always check with reagents, like Ehrlichs.
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#3 Posted : 7/21/2019 2:25:29 PM

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It's either DMT or you have one hell of a psychosomatic placebo response.
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