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tony
#1 Posted : 11/4/2011 1:49:21 AM

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i'll be doing my first extraction in the next week or so (just waiting on the mhrb arriving) and i am fairly confident that i know what i'm doing. i don't know the name of the tek i'm using but it's basically "make basified water solution and add mimosa. add naptha. then repeatedly take out some naptha and freeze precipitate the dmt"

i have everything i need but the tek says to use distilled water and the prices i have seen online (haven't checked real world prices) seem incredibly expensive for just buying some water, so my question is whether using volvic (or something similar) would cause any problems? is the important thing the starting ph of the water? i am assuming distilled water would be ph neutral or thereabouts and i have read that volvic mineral water is ph neutral so i'm thinking it would be fine, but i don't really know enough about the actual chemistry of the process to be sure that there aren't factors i'm unaware of. could someone confirm/correct my thoughts on this?

thanks in advance. also this is my first post and i'd just like to say that these forums have been a great help to me in the last few weeks since i decided to actually go through with aquiring this drug. it has been the holy grail of drugs to me since i first read experience reports on it when i was thirteen (a decade ago, i'm about to turn 24). i've tried a reasonable selection of drugs in that decade but none have ever intrigued me more than dmt. i realised a couple of years ago that people quite commonly extracted it (i had always thought it was lab synthesized) but the teks i read seemed too complicated and i was still living at home so couldn't really have a bunch of lab type stuff lying around the place. now i'm in my own place and can have whatever i like lying around Very happy
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#2 Posted : 11/4/2011 2:17:24 AM

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For a stb, regular water works fine.

If your dealing with salts, and evaporating water to get your products, starting with clean water is a good precaution. My tap water is ph 8.5, its great water, small town mountain water, but it has stuff in it. Just natural stuff that's in water, dissolved salts and such. But I've found using distilled water give just a little more purity, and its a cheap and easy precaution anyway. All my brewing also takes place with distilled water as well, just so i don't have to acidify very much.
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#3 Posted : 11/4/2011 2:38:45 PM
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A FOAF said they used ordinary tap water (from a well) and produced some very nice spice utilizing a STB tek.

Not sure about city/municipal water sources though.
 
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#4 Posted : 11/4/2011 7:35:39 PM

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thank's guys. a couple of other minor things i thought of are:

1. i'm using lye that has been sitting for probably over a decade in a garage. it still looks fine, i added some to a glass of water and the water got very hot so i'm assuming there is no degradation of lye over time and it will still do the job?

2. the tek says to get the mixture to around 29c, the most simple way for me to achieve that temperature is by putting the container in the cool end of my snake tank... but i have read that caustic soda can potentially crack the glass due to the exothermic reaction. i assume that if the glass is going to crack it will do so within a short amount of time after adding the lye and that if it has sat for a few hours and is fine then there is no chance of it randomly smashing when i put it in the snake tank? or is it just a bad idea to have something like that in a box with an animal?
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#5 Posted : 11/5/2011 8:39:27 AM

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dont know about normal water always use distilled but

the cracking of glass can be avoided by adding lye slowly. Adding a little bit then waiting for it to dissolve and so on.
Even good lab glassware got some cracks when i added a big amount of lye fast. It gets very hot on one end while staying relatively cool at the other. This magically leads to cracks in the glass

but why endanger your precious animal at all. I guess your snake is not aware of the dangers and could be harmed if any kind of spills happen.

Best to keep the jar in another vessel like a bucket away from everything else, in case some shit happens there will be no damage and you can still reuse your extraction water
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#6 Posted : 11/5/2011 9:12:14 AM

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#7 Posted : 11/5/2011 11:30:18 AM

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that's handy to know since i have a halfords 5 minutes walk from my house.
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