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First STB extraction with mhrb : neep help Options
 
gaiiashamb
#1 Posted : 6/7/2020 6:03:18 PM
Hello communauty <3

after a first experience, the first result is disappointing.

I tried to synthesize at best this simple STB recipe for 50gr of mimosa.

I don't know the terms well yet and I don't speak English, but luckily google translation is there Smile

I took the slightly yellowish napthaline out of the freezer after 24 hours to enhance the DMT crystals. there was a lot of residue everywhere but in a very small amount. only 2 or 3 really small crystal starts.

Did I miss a few things in my recipe?

It would help me a lot to share on this thread in order to learn the basics of chemistry for DMT extraction and gradually understand my mistakes Smile

To the pleasure: I share the recipe below:

Ingredient:
- 500ml of distilled water
- 50gr caustic soda
- 50gr of crushed Mimosa hostilis
- 250ml of gasoline f (Naphtaline)

Material:
- Jar 01 - 1l heat resistant
- Jar 02 - 0.5l
- Pyrex dish
- Liquid temperature meter - Saucepan
- Large quality syringe - Scope
- Chemical protection gloves

DMT recipe
Straight to base (stb) method

STB 1 EXTRACTION

Recipe:
Gloves and glasses must be used at every step!
Increase pH of water in jar 01

1. Pour 500ml of distilled water into the 1l jar heat resistant

2. Add 50gr of caustic soda per small portion (risk of jet if all of a sudden) (never put the distilled water after the soda -> Danger)

2.a Touch with the temperature meter (attention, liquid with very high PH)

2.b While adding the soda to find the translucent color of the water

DMT extraction in jar o1

3. Add 50gr of Mimosa hostilis 4. Shake
Essence preparation in jar 02

5. Pour 250 ml of gasoline f into another 0.5l jar

6. In a saucepan, heat water to reach 70 degrees and put the jar of gasoline in it (without air bubble under the jar otherwise the glass shatters) (do not close the jar otherwise the pressure of the petrol bursts)

7. Increase the fuel temperature to 60 ° (50-70) (Hot but not boiling)

Incorporate everything + agitation and separation
8. Once the essence is hot, incorporate it into the 1l jar

9. Shake

10. Close the jar and shake like a chemist

11. Regularly open the jar for depressurized)

12. Repeat the agitation in shaking (rolling, inverting, etc.)

13. Leave to stand (formation of the 2 layers: essence and mixture)

14. Once the layers are clear repeat the agitation and rest (3x) 30 minutes.
(For a quality of the process, make sure to keep the 60 °Pleased
(Have the pan of hot water nearby to soak it as much as necessary the mixture)

15. Let stand to clarify the layers
DMT + Essence Recovery

16. Recover the layer of gasoline of 250ml loaded in dmt with a pipette.
(especially do not take part of the mixture, otherwise: fucked up and toxic)

17. Transfer the petrol into a Pyrex dish
Dmt crystallization (Beware of costs)

18. Put the dish in Pyrex in a freezer for 24 hours and at an angle

19. Empty the petrol into the 0.5l jar

20. Dmt stays at the bottom of the Pyrex

21. Recover gasoline that remains with pipette

22. Place the Pyrex dish upside down on a cloth.

23. Then again after installing close to a window to evaporate 100%

Second extraction

1. Heat in a bain marie the 0.5l jar containing the recovered gasoline (60 °Pleased

2. Return the heated gasoline to the jar 01 containing the mimosa mixture

3. Shake and rest as before (3x)

4. Extract essence with syringe to put in Pyrex dish

5. Put in the freezer and at an angle the dish (24h)

6. Empty the petrol into the 1l jar 01

7. Put the dish in Pyrex upside down on a cloth.

8. Then again after installing close to a window to evaporate 100%

Possible to repeat the extraction a third time

Result with 50gr:
Minimum: 1g of DMT
Average: 0.6g to 0.8g DMT


 
downwardsfromzero
ModeratorChemical expert
#2 Posted : 6/8/2020 1:09:21 AM
Heating the naphtha ('gasoline') before the extraction is largely irrelevant: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=94273

You can prevent transfer of bark mixture into your crystallisation dish along with your naphtha by using an extra container. Put the naphtha from the syringe into this intermediate container and any droplets of caustic sludge will settle out and can be left there. The naphtha then can be transferred carefully to the crystallisation dish.

The poor yield could be down to lack of sufficient time allowed for any one of the stages of the extraction process, or simply poor quality bark. Repeat the process, being patient and meticulous throughout, and that should indicate if your bark is any good.

Best of luck, and welcome to the Nexus!




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― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
gaiiashamb
#3 Posted : 6/9/2020 5:38:47 PM
@downwardsfromzero : thank you really much about your response ♡

actually I understand some steps better.

I corrected my recipe and we are working on it Smile I would suddenly have a few points outstanding.

1. the naptha once recovered after the process of first crystallization, can I put it directly in the soup of mimosa + soda and heat once at 60 ° and then leave to stand for a few days with some daily agitation?

then on the day of the 3rd extraction heat, stir, several times and put the naphtha back in the freezer? is there not the risk that naphtha at room temperature for several days in "the soup" will crystallize the dmt in the mixture directly?

2. then if I understood correctly, there are several ways to start crystallization:

a) either let the naphtha at room temperature and ventilate.

b). or put the naphtha in the freezer. is it right ?

3. The term precipitation means well: initiate pre-crystallization?

Thank you so much ♡ it's totally exciting, i discover now the first step to explore the phytochemistry and it's just a beautiful beginning !
 
downwardsfromzero
ModeratorChemical expert
#4 Posted : 6/10/2020 10:51:04 PM
Reusing naphtha is quite wise.

It's important for the soup and naphtha to be warm when the naphtha is removed. I don't know if you were planning on keeping your extraction hot for "a few days" but the point is that the warm naphtha has a much higher DMT carrying capacity than when it is cooler.

Perhaps you were under the impression that leaving the extraction mixture for longer 'gives the DMT more time to migrate'? With thorough mixing you should be able to separate the naphtha again after ten minutes and still be confident that you've made an effective pull. Leaving it much longer than this is not really necessary, so get that naphtha off and into the fridge, then the freezer. If you really want to leave some naphtha in the mimosa soup it shouldn't do any harm other than the risk of having a caustic, flammable and, come to mention, in many parts of the world illegal mixture hanging around somewhere.

Any DMT crystals that do form would simply redissolve once the mixture is heated up again. I would stillsay you are better off doing all the pulls you want while your mixture is still hot. Then you'll avoid having to heat it back up again, and avoid the aforementioned risks.

DMT can be recovered by evaporating the naphtha but I'm much more in favour of using the freezer. Precipitation in this case means to cause the DMT to come out of solution from the naphtha by cooling it down, which makes its solubility decrease. Anther way of causing precipitation is by formation of an insoluble salt, such as in the case of some other alkaloidal free bases which may be precipitated from a non-polar solvent by addition of an acid or dry HCl. DMT fumarate precipitates when fumaric acid saturated acetone (FASA) is added to a solution of DMT freebase in (anhydrous) acetone.

(Precipitation is also as a general term for water falling to the ground from the atmoosphere in liquid or/and frozen form - rain/sleet/snow/hail. Which, incidentally, reminds me - if the atmosphere is particularly humid, you may get ice crystals in your freeze precipitation dish.)




“There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work."
― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
 
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