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Titrating DMT from naptha Options
 
chinkof
#1 Posted : 3/6/2020 10:02:12 AM
Hi,

So I've been messing with some upscaling, but this means that I have quite a lot of naphtha that comes from the pulls. This is actually too much to evaporate it down to a supersaturated fluid. This would take a couple of weeks, so I want to try different ways to extract the goodies from the naphtha.

Now I tried titration on a small 150ml batch, but the water is evaporating at the moment.
To be on the same level, this is how I tried to titrate:
-Measured 150ml
-Made acid water (pH of around 2-3
-measured pH of the naphtha - > pH of 7 it was
-Added I guess around 100ml of the water (with some pH measurements in between) it began to decrease the pH.
-When I've added the acific water, the PH when from 2-3 to around 8-9.
- I met adding water until it turned to 6-7.
- I had to add 300ml of water to decrease the pH.
- Seperated the naphtha from the water
- I put the water in a hot water bath.


Now I have a couple of things I am not sure about...
I am supposed to lower the PH, but does this mean I have to add enough water so that the water keeps the neutral PH? Also I tried to evaporate the water down, what should be the maximum temperature to evaporate the water down the quickest without ruining the dmt? Because I added quite a lot of water to the naptha it should take a long time to evaporate, is it possible to add a small amount of water, but really acidific, so the pH lowers really quick? And how much dmt can water hold?


 
downwardsfromzero
ModeratorChemical expert
#2 Posted : 3/6/2020 4:27:53 PM
There's not much sense in adding more acid than is necessary, especially if you're using a non-volatile acid.

Considering boiling with acid is part of several extraction methods, evaporating on a hot water bath is nothing to worry about. Increasing airflow would hasten evaporation - using an inert gas would lessen the possibility of oxidation.

Don't go too high on the acid concentration, there are practical reasons for keeping the volume of polar phase within a certain proportion of the non-polar phase.

Most DMT salts are exceedingly soluble in water.




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