Hey everyone, after reading alot of reports and having personal experiences ive come to see a trend of "levels" or "stages" that many of us go through on our long term path with DMT.(not saying this will be the case for everyone)

The first level seems to be failing to blast off and/or experiencing sub/post breakthrough effects. such as distorted rooms, exuberant open eyed visuals and the presence of something more of the divine nature(the sense of one). i feel this happens to alot of us when we're starting off due to improper smoking methods, fear of letting go or just not doing enough.

The second level is the graceful hyperslap, i say graceful because after having going thru the first stage for sometime, a hyperslap brings what most of us desire at first. this level consists of undoubtedly entering the other realm and being astonished by the sights seen and the knowledge rushing in, which at first tends to be overwhelming and all youre able to bring back is, WOW!

The third level id say is meeting the entities, for most this is a tangible stage of learning and remembering by association, at this stage it seems easier to remember bits and pieces by getting over the astonishment of the hyper slap and going in with no expectations, also has a more homie vibe to it and for most the trip seems cleaner in a sense.

The forth stage is a stage of consistence and i believe it comes over time, i dont quite think im there yet but from all the research ive done it seems to be the stage where most journeys bring you to the same dimension more and more to the point where you can interact with your entity's and become truly "woke" to the message and experience. i would like to reference terrance mckennas reports for this one as after he smoked it over many years he was able to bring back a clear and powerful story which he would share in most lectures.

Im not saying it goes in any particular order or that it even has stages, this is just my personal experience. i just want to know if anyone else have felt like theyve gone thru these levels and if yall have anything to add or dispute id really like to hear. if you made it thru thanks for reading

i agree it happens in stages for me yes that "struggle" to get there is deffinitly in the begining i think this is partly because of what you said about improper techniques ect but also we dont know what "there" is yet...for me and you can tell this if you look at my posts over the past few days...first was the struggle to get there...then it wasnt really "meeting" a entity but more like observing a entity. then after that i actually didnt see a entity but FELT it within those patterns. those last 2 steps were complete amazment of how beautiful things were. most recently it got past seeing or feeling a seperate entity but finally getting to where i was trying to go wich for me was past meeting seeing feeling a seperate entity but being at one with myself and that entity as i said in my last post i didnt need to meet the entity because i was the entity it was just a feeling of being at 1 with everything in the universe...THAT was the breakthrough for me

im happy you saw this, for your post was one that inspired me to make this thread, break thrus are extremely different for everyone, but its nice to know people go thru the same themes!