PRE-CONDITIONS (mind)Set: great! exploratory and calm. Natural apprehension framed in a positive way. (physical condition) Set: with great lighting. On my bed w/ my girlfriend at the base of the bed sitting for me. Setting (location): my bedroom time of day: 10pm recent drug use: marijuana the previous day last meal: veggie omelet for dinner around 6 pm.
PARTICIPANT Gender: m body weight: 70 known sensitivities: na history of use: generally pretty experienced with other compounds but only second time with DMT
BIOASSAY Substance(s): DMT from MHRB Dose(s): ~20mg Method of administration: sandwich method in 1.5ft bong. (ash, crystal, ash, damiana and mint)
EFFECTS Administration time: 10pm Duration: 7-10 min First effects: 7-10 seconds after inhaling first hit Peak: no idea, probably within two minutes or so. Come down: 6 min? baseline: 20 min or so?
Intensity (overall): somewhere between quite a bit and exytremely, pretty damn intense. but I don't have much of a comparison. From reading reports it sounds like It can get waaaaay weirder than this experience. Evaluation / notes:
OPTIONAL Pleasantness: (2-3) Unplesantness: (1) Visual Intensity: 3-4?? Again, I don't have much comparison. way more intense and immersive than any other psychedelic
AFTER-EFFECTS Hangover: (0) Afterglow: (2; felt great in my body afterwards, but definitely confused and challenging to process
REPORT
Sorry if this is too long! Wanted to jot everything down I could remember, including retrospective reflections since it's so hard to document it chronologically.
After 10 seconds of holding in the first hit the reality texture of the room got entirely layered with colors and beautifully complex patterns that moved as I did. Huge body rush (in a calm and feel good way) and time slowed down/became draggy and everything was very typical “psychedelic” vibes. went immediately back for the second hit, held it in for almost no time before everything just completely unfolded/transformed/ as I leaned back on my bed pulling my eye shades over my eyes.
“Oh my god” “whoa” I could hear repeating in my head because it (whatever it is, I do not know) had that demanding “what the fuck is this?” quality to it. I didn’t get an answer to that question, btw. I immediately felt that this was the same space that I had been in previously about a week ago when I smoked DMT for the first time, just this time way more intense; the feeling and sensations were super familiar to the glimpse I got the previous week, but it just opened up and overwhelmed me way quicker. Because the hit absolutely floored me, I flopped over lying belly down on my bed with my face to the side for most of the trip. At no point did I ever “land” in a place, or was transported to a place, as I’ve read in many reports- It was more of being gargled up, merged into and rocketed through an infinitely unfolding matrix of complex geometry, fractal/scenery, tunnelsque structures (maybe even faces? I couldn’t focus enough to make them out). It is strange to use action verbs because I was it and it was me in some ways? What was doing the propelling and to whom? I say tunnelesque because it was way weirder than a single “tunnel” and not actually a clear feeling of “hey, i’m in a tunnel!” or cylindrical tube. Since everything was moving and changing so rapidly it seemed like there could have been a gazillion things/tunnels moving around, but not necessarily leading to anywhere because everything was encompassed in that space/there already? It’s obviously futile to try to describe it in words, especially because of how overwhelmingly intense/disorienting it felt the whole time.
There were a lot of feelings that came up, some continuous throughout and others short-lived. These were mostly awe, amazement, euphoria and love (at the end) disorientation, fear, vulnerability. The overwhelming complexity of it all, and the pronounced feeling that it (i.e., the space) was interactive and conscious, instills all of these feelings simultaneously. I can remember basking in it in a positive and serene way, while simultaneously being reminded that its complexity and self-evident power/superiority meant that ANYTHING could happen there and that I most certainly did not have control over that. However, there were a couple of times/moments where I did feel some sort of volitional control over the quality of the experience. I think, but can’t be sure because it happened so fast, that in focusing on letting go through conscious breathing I would get feedback from whatever environment I had found myself in in a seemingly encouraging way. It was non-verbal, but it felt like the environment was responding with “YES, keep going” or “yes, more, more” or just feeling responses to my skepticism? Or confusion? Not sure. almost like it was feeding/absorbing on my releasing energy, that letting go. Not like I felt anything getting sucked out of me, but more just a bizarre communication through feeling and color, because it would kind of morph/explode into different beautiful colors when I engaged in that manner.
But that kind of engagement was short-lived because of how disoriented I felt. This was all awesome (in the literal sense of the word, not necessarily that fun), but definitely kind of scary. The power that was there and the strength of the presence were shocking. I couldn’t sense any malicious aspects to the space. At the same time, so striking was the potentiality of it all- that I took in an infinitesimally small amount of what that space might hold and what could have manifested or what might manifest in future journeys. Because of this, I really couldn’t figure out “what to do” with myself during the trip. I guess I figured ( from reading other reports) that I would pop open/explode at some point and I would leave my body, but this never happened and I was pretty aware of there still being a “me” there and I could feel my body lying on my bed pretty much the whole time in a weird way. This made me kind of uncomfortable, like I was “waiting” for something dramatic to happen (somehow more dramatic than the absurdity that was already happening?) and I really didn’t know what to do myself. Do I say anything? Do I move around? Do I try to touch or communicate? If so, then with what? Is there anything even petitionable here? I just kind of mindlessly defaulted to not moving and letting the experience continue to unfold.
I had an urge to rip my eye shades off and look around to see if the room was still there, or if I was travelling in this other realm using my mattress as a platform, but I didn’t take them off because I didn’t want to freak my girlfriend out. Didn’t matter if my eyes were closed or open under the eye-shades because the whole visual experience was all the same in my mind’s eye, but I did feel that there may have been more to experience beyond the eyeshades if I took them off, whether it be good or bad. I need to trust my gf when she says that it’s ok for me to express myself in whatever way I need to when I’m tripping. At the same time, the intimacy and weirdness of the experience makes me want to do it alone instead of with someone in the room. Regardless, I felt like that feeling of wanting to just gaze around my room constricted me a little bit and perhaps kept me from going deeper. At the same time, that could be my post-hoc rationalization for feeling too overwhelmed/scared to do it.
Anyways, for the next (apparent) minute or so I just kind of tried to settle in further and breath/let go, which seemed to be like the right move but there was definitely still some mental tension there. Probably my ego putting up a bit of a fight, which isn’t all that fun to experience.
Once I felt a little more “back”, I took my eye shades off to reveal my wonderful girlfriend glowing like a beautiful technicolored earth creature (she is one!), with my whole loom lit up in amazing colors, patterns, swirls, etc. almost like the air particles were glistening with color and organizing around my movement. She definitely had 6-8 eyes, at which point I told her that this was certainly not over and I flopped back over on my stomach to just relax, enjoy the rest of the effects, and try to process some of what just happened. Felt lots of awe and love and gratitude for her, myself, everything, etc. This and the remainder was just really pleasant visuals and positive feelings.
That latter portion is definitely the large majority of what I can remember clearly. The first part I could remember emotions and thoughts but still struggling to actually remember the quality of the visual experience and what was happening in that space/wormhole. Definitely hard to take away and integrate a lot of something so strange, but I’m putting in the effort!
Main take-aways and questions:
1.) I want try next time without eye shades. They were seemingly not limiting because it didn’t matter if I closed or opened my eyes everything was the same, but I think the fact that I knew I had them on, and that I was unsure if I took them if my room would still be there held me back from going deeper. I think if I had looked around and still had my room and GF semi-intact, then I would have almost felt more permission to go deeper or to let go more. On the other hand, it would be helpful to know if I took them off and I was entirely elsewhere. 2.) Naturally, feelings of gratitude and appreciation for myself, others, earth, other realms, etc. Always a good feeling when you come back down from any psychedelic and find yourself intact again, even though I always “felt” like I was in my body. I did some yoga after and the body sensation/load was nicely integrated/dispersed as I did it- it felt amazing. 3.) I think I can talk and think a big game but tend to resist completely surrendering/giving up control, especially to something that powerful that could take me in a potentially negative direction. In the experience I felt like I had volition and could try to let go/surrender, but I’ve been reminded it’s much easier said than done and I hope that with practice and experience I can get better at it, both w/ DMT space and in my own life. 4.) This all being said, hell of a second experience with this and I’m excited and nervous (naturally) about doing it again in the future. Entirely mind-boggling, absurd, weird, fantastic… 5.) If anyone has suggestions on how to better interact or approach the experience I’m all ears!
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Harmalas might interest you. You could make some changa and it will let you take a better look around while all that is going on. There’s the Tao of Rue Extraction in the wiki and then lots of changa receipes all around in various subforums. Sounds like you had a successful flight
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