Hi everyone,

I've done aya/pharma a handful of times now using just DMT, DMT + ACRB dissolved mixed into juice, and just plain ACRB in juice - all in high and lower doses. I've noticed that adding the ACRB tends to bring on more earth-like or jungle themes, especially in regard to animals and entities, although they usually seem far away and I don't typically have communication with them. The ACRB has also brought on hints of darkness or "bad" entities, although nothing too complicated or problematic ever came from those instances.

I'm on a break at the moment but when I start up again for my next few rounds of experiences I would like to try mixtures with Chacruna and/or chaliponga. I will likely be trying these both by themselves individually, individually with freebase DMT added, and combined with freebase added. I've also wondered about combining chacruna, chaliponga, and acacia (while being sure to at least reasonably estimate the range of DMT content to keep from ingesting a pervasively absurd amount) into one mixture.

I'm wondering if you guys with the experience would be able to comment on whether using particular DMT mixtures (chacruna, chaliponga, acacia) typically presents unique elements, and whether/how much this might vary from person to person.

Thanks!

I am not an "experienced member" here. You are certainly in a great place to get great answers. I'm sure someone will be along with more than I say soon enough.
I have used Chacruna, Chaliponga, Mimosa Hostilis, and only once Acasia Confusa. I am totally loving the analog style brew using the MHRB and B.Caapi 30:1 extract added at the end of the final reduction.

I would say yes indeed they do seem to have different characteristics to them. I have personally noticed that the root barks seem very grounded and the leaf blends less grounded. That has made me look at the area of the plant they occupy and how it makes sense. The roots are deep in the earth and anchored to it. The leaves are high up and flow with wind etc.
The leaf blends seem to have much more of a jungle sort of feel to them, and the root barks are very heavy earthy, even deep in the earth at times. It again makes sense looking at where they come from in their natural setting.
It is hard to put into words really, but the short answer is;
I absolutely think they do indeed have unique character/theme to them for sure. The best thing you can do is continue to try different blends and see for yourself. You will see clear differences and find your preferred blend.

I would really say to try them individually just as you stated. You could mix them later for sure if you wanted to try it, but start individually. That way you have your own clear understanding of what each one does with you. I mixed Chaliponga with MHRB once and it was really very good, but had some interesting (my words, not theirs...lol) rough effects on some friends that loved MHRB alone brew. It was also a pain in the ass to brew simply because of how much volume of plant material the leaf expands into in the pot. I had to add more water a few times, then the final reduction took A LOT longer... It was still good in the end, but I personally tend to stick to one "helper" plant in the brew now.

Safe Travels

VS, what RIMA tek are you using? Some espouse caapi/chacruna as the true Aya. Discussion to the point of tedium really. Can be hard to find "good" chacruna, but it is indeed gentle and visionary at appropriate doses.

MHRB, ACRB and chaliponga do seem to have varied "signatures". This is another point of discussion that seems over emphasized. Combos of DMT carrier plants can be challenging. Dose titration seems to be the key to avoiding overshoot. So many variables with oral brews that finding the "sweet spot" can be tricky. Throw in the different RIMA teks, plant and personal variations abound.

Lots of great discourse re this topic under the Ayahuasca/Pharmahuasca threads.

Peace

Thanks for the responses.

Sousa - That's interesting about experiences being grounded or not based on using leaves or roots. I suppose I will just have to see.

Legarto - I've just been using combinations of harmine, harmaline, and THH in HCL form, so I haven't actually brewed with rue or caapi before. I'd be working with chacruna/chaliponga resin already reduced to a low material volume with a high concentration so I don't actually have to do all the work at the stove, but I could always do so if I wanted to and see if that would make a difference.

I did notice it might be tough to measure the chacruna correctly. It looks like the alkaloid content will vary a LOT based on all the different factors, but oh well. I think at the very least for a given sample of chacruna, I can be reasonably certain that the content will be somewhat consistent among that batch and go from there.