I have read through several lengthy and informative wiki entries and forum threads on changa, and I have one question. I understand changa simply means infusing leaves/herbs with spice and/or harmala extract.

Would caapi leaf infused with spice have enough haramla/MAOI(synonymous?) effect to be a good changa in itself, or does the leaf only contain a trace harmala effect to where it would need additional harmala extract infusion to get a good ratio?

I understand some leaves and herbs used in changa blends have no innate harmala quality, so would, say, lavender infused with spice still be changa?

(okay, maybe there's 3 questions in there)

I believe harmala + dmt = changa..so, cappi leaf/dmt is changa, while lavender/dmt would be "enhanced leaf," or "enhanced herb."

Trace amounts if your just using the caapi leaf. Lite MAOI/brain effect in comparison to extracted harmalas. I typically extract harmalas from caapi vine. I use roughly 270mg caapi harmalas per 1g DMT per 1g (leaf blend of your choice).

Quite a few here have made 11x caapi leaf/etc. Never have done that, as I always found extracting the harmalas then dissolving them down into high proof alcohol then infusing said herbs to be of great effect.

<3 tat

Interesting, thanks for that info. Don't most people use a 1:1 harmalaMT ratio?

Um im not entirely sure, although I don't think so. There's some here that have made 'harmala heavy' blends and they imo, are very similar to ayahuasca in that it's more of a "slow crawl" through hyperspace, than shot directly through. But 270mg harmalas per 1g of DMT is definitely sufficient for MAOI/brain activity to where it'll slow it down considerably. Definitely not on the same scale as 1g harmalas to 1g DMT, though ime.

270mg-300mg per 1g DMT is a good amount if your looking to make a solid changa blend.

Best of travels,

<3 tat

Thanks! My ": DMT" turned into a smiley, but I think you understood what I typed.