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Ayahuasca vs Pharmahuasca and my experiences Options
 
Caesar
#1 Posted : 8/21/2013 8:15:00 PM
I've only tried DMT two times so far, one was in the Ayahuasca form and the other one in the Pharma form.

The Ayahuasca one was waayyy more intense (and dark at the beginning), while the Pharma experience is probably the best experience I've had in my life; it had no darkness to it whatsoever, and I was even able to get into the memories of some people I knew!! Now ain't that something!

My main question here is what is the biggest difference between the Aya and the Pharma experiences?? I cannot rely too much on my own experiences since I've only tried each one time.

So the main differences I noticed on both my experiences was that Aya was more intense and it also had a dark side to it at the beginning. I also had my Aya experience with a Mexican shaman that I didn't know very much about (oops). I think the dark experience I had the first time was due to me not being in the right mindset and really not knowing the nature of this amazing molecule.

I feel as if my mind later understood this experience more thoroughly and was able to adapt to the experience the best way possible. I believe that's why I had the best experience of my life when I tried pharmahuasca!

I'd like to talk about the main theme of both of my experiences. In both experiences I felt as if I had become one with everything, as if I had morphed into the collective consciousness and spirit that unites all human beings in the world. And cool enough, in both experiences, as I was going up into the dmt realm, I found myself repeating "We are all one" over and over again. It came from the very essence and soul of my being. I didn't plan to say it at any time; it just came by itself.

It seems as if this experience really unites me with every other soul in the world. I swear that I've also seen life through the eyes of people that I have never even met. For me, the dmt dimension is a very real spiritual experience, and it somehow makes me see things that I otherwise would've never seen in my life.

Something that I experienced both of the times also was that time became one as well. There's no way of putting it in the limited vocabulary we have; really the best way I can put it is that I was occupying all of time, since the very beginning of the universe to the present, and I was shown images of when the Earth was being formed. I saw how Albert Einstein saw life: a very colorful and imaginative experience. I was in the shoes of John Basilone in his last moments at Iwo Jima; an American war hero and Medal of Honor recipient. I even saw life through the eyes of people that I have never even met! One of these visions involved being in the middle of a street with a whole buch of Filipino-looking people walking around and greeting each other. . . I couldn't have taked that out of my subconscious cause I ain't ever even seen anything like that.

The most interesting happening was that I saw a friend of mine who's 40 years old when he was 20. How did I know his exact age when I saw him? I have absolutely no idea. I went and told him how he was dressed, what he was doing, and where he was at, then he just stared at me in awe and shock. I had described to him a time of his life that he had never even shared with me!

That's why I believe that the dmt realm is indeed REAL, and needs to be respected as such. Back to the mistery of how I knew my friend was 20 in my vision, it just very naturally came to me, not as spoken words, but as energy that I felt that cleared my mind and just made me realize it.

I cannot possibly describe every detail of what was going on because I'm so intrigued by all the small details of the misteries of this molecule from what I've seen. One thing I know for sure is that it REALLY opened my third eye, and made me see everything from a much higher perspective while I was on it. There's no way of explaining the mental connection I get from people, and how I know something happened even if I've never seen it. It's truly a wonderful and misterious world.

So, has anyone experienced similar things? And also I would LOVE to know how common this realization of "Oneness with everything" or "We are all one" is. Thank you all very much for your input and keep exploring the consciousness!
 
jamie
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#2 Posted : 8/21/2013 8:23:41 PM
If there was a lot of vine in the brew, that can contribute to it being much darker and somewhat more intense.
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InLaKesh
#3 Posted : 8/21/2013 9:27:06 PM
Caesar wrote:

So, has anyone experienced similar things? And also I would LOVE to know how common this realization of "Oneness with everything" or "We are all one" is. Thank you all very much for your input and keep exploring the consciousness!


The Oneness is a very common Theme in the entheogenic experience (i had a oneness/light experience on a high mushroom dose)!
I recently also had an LSDMT experience that felt like a 3rd eye opening.

Happy Travels

In Lak'ech - I am another yourself
 
 
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