When I first vaped I got to see 3D structures when eyes closed, I had very positive feeling and usual effects of psychedelics (distorted visuals). However, ever since I learnt to vape more properly I get higher doses I get to this level 2 where I don't feel particularly different nor do have visual effects (moving patterns etc.) any more. Everything is pretty much the same as without DMT except my hands and face get really alien. That's all.

So, I've been wondering that according to all these trip reports and stories I'm supposed to see some entities and really fey stuff but I don't. It raises an obvious question - what should I do?

Once I vaped until I was physically unable to vape any more because I didn't have any idea where my mouth is and how to use the lighter properly and yet I was still stuck in level 2 ( although I got to see Ganesha as closed eye visuals which was something new).

So, now I have several new ideas what to try:
1. Snort some 100mg fumarate and when it peaks, vape as much freebase as possible.
2. When vaping freebase and running out of air in lungs, exhale into a condom and then breathe it in a couple of times.
3. Inject a lot of fumarate.

Any more suggestions? Heck, Terence McKenna told there are at least 7 levels to reach when tripping on DMT. In that sense I've been stuck in 2 and am running out of ideas how to explore further. Help me.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...experiences_anymore_.3F

and

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...z_only.2C_what_to_do.3F

hope it helps

1. Pick up a spiritual practice. If you want to meet entities it helps to have your energy body in check. The impression i got from my last DMT is that i should try celibacy for a change.

2. Ingest some harmaline/harmine before vaping the DMT. I recommend drinking a nice cup of B.Caapi and meditate for a little while until you start feeling the effects before vaping.

3. Put on some good tunes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ULyuOyy_w was the tune i vaped to the first time. Had a wonderful experience. Altho, i must admit. The woman speaking in this song was kind of distracting and i don't suppose all of it added much to my experience except for a nice spiritual vibe.


It sounds to me like you are getting an effective dose. Heck if you can't even find your mouth you are way past my own limit. I don't think ingesting more DMT will do the trick. I think it is a sure-proof path to a trainwreck experience. But that is me.

If you can not or aren't willing to do any of the above. Try to profit from the heightened awareness that DMT gives you by meditating. I recommend trying to see and feel chakra points in your body and see where you are lacking. Namaste.

Hang up the phone and take a break.

I concur, I remember when I overdid it, all I would get is what I call a tryptamine haze.
This is where everything has the bright glow, colours shifted in palette, and everything has a slight fuzziness/noise to the image. I would take big doses, and only get there, never further.
After having a break, I have returned, and found the trips to be more meaningful, and more exciting.

Thank you a lot for the replies! I actually meditate once in while already but I haven't tried doing DMT immediately after a fair session of meditation (at least 30 min). I will try the tips you gave me.

I did the exact same thing, and I would do it over and over for like an hour. But it became monotonous and even though it felt amazing it just doesn't satisfy. Quit for a while and come back.

Take a break , try to improve some things in your earthly/daily life to be ready for the next level .

Doesn,t really matter if it,s mental or physical , study something or do some sport what you like , to get a the feeling of a forward motion in your life.

Oh!!!!

I meditated for 30 minutes while listening to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u07eiHLwDxQ

Then got a couple of grains of some fine freebase on the mesh and vaped it with my torch lighter while listening to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE8n4U_tmuY. Although I accidentally burnt it a bit I got massive amount of DMT vaped and I still wonder how is it possible from just 2-3 grains (like sugar grains)!

Because I find it disturbing how my hands look I quickly jumped to bed and closed my eyes. At first there was some negative feeling related to the visuals I got to see so I quickly tried to think of one particular girl that I might love and then everything suddenly became really positive. I was just smiling and looking at the crazy fractals that went even beyond crazy until the whole effect slowly wore off. Then I just woke up from the most beautiful dream and yawned deeply and repeatedly. All in all, really positive trip even though I didn't discover anything completely new (mainly because I only took maybe 5mg, really small amount, only a couple of grains).

So, thank you for the suggestions!!

how often do you vape?

From the last time it was 3 weeks. Before that I believe I did it more frequently and randomly. Sometimes the following day and sometime once a week.

This is what I do if I want to breakthrough for sure. Load more than is necessary, itll solidify back up anyway so it doesn't get wasted. Take a couple small to medium hits to just start feeling it just before it gets too strong to focus, then take as big of a hit as you can and hold in it as long as possible, I find that sucking slow allows you to get a more concentrated hit and therefore more dmt. I always use a torch lighter so I never have to worry about not getting enough, you can burn it if you're not careful but it only happens if I let somebody else light it, I never burn it.
For me harmalas do make it stronger but for some reason I feel like it limits the intensity. It makes the visions more comprehensible to me but I think it spreads the high out like aya. Also Nitrous will give your d a boost. Hbwr is a good combo too.
If vaped dmt is losing its magic try making a brew and smoking on top of it, or just make a strong brew.
Also, contrary to common belief, sometimes if I smoke it slow like weed or something itll get me there, ive surprised myself before. Just keep taking hits and see what happens, or get somebody else to light it for you. If you have a good vaporizer you only need one huge hit if you do it right. I have to be careful not to break through with my pipe, not struggle for it to happen.
The eclipse vape rocks!

changa mixtures are always a good way to mix up the experience