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leon
#1 Posted : 6/18/2013 6:11:22 PM
 
wearepeople
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#2 Posted : 6/18/2013 6:26:15 PM
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leon
#3 Posted : 6/18/2013 6:37:56 PM
Thank you very much! I have a patch of big medicine that will be ready for harvest soon. I plan on writing a fasa tek when I have time. I'm really surprised there isn't a safe universal tek on the wiki, when you google phalaris tek theres one that suggest making chloroform. VERY DANGEROUS.
 
wearepeople
Senior Member
#4 Posted : 6/18/2013 6:44:54 PM
there are definitely Phalaris TEKs in the works. Have you seen dreamer042's Hippie Salad V2.0? From what I understand, it's still in the experimental phases but I'm sure he'd love to know how it works for you!

Also, for FASA, I put together a little outline to help people get started in FASA.
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leon
#5 Posted : 6/18/2013 7:06:14 PM
Yes I saw that the other day and was trying to find it again, thanksVery happy. But cuz its on the forum most people cant find it, common google searches pull nothing up. Its the best method I've seen so far. I plan on using it on my next extraction to see how it is.
 
Parshvik Chintan
#6 Posted : 6/18/2013 9:15:23 PM
almost all teks can be used on phalaris.

alkaloid extractions from plant material = alkaloid extractions from different plant material.

gramine and hordenine are not a concern as long as you use either naphtha or limonene (some might argue that they are not a concern no matter what - not much evidence to substantiate their "danger" ).
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leon
#7 Posted : 6/18/2013 9:39:06 PM
I know, i just think we should come up with an easy guide so anyone in the united states can safely do it in a month after reading the guide. You can just go pick it and get the stuff to make it at the supermarket. I plan on writing a pdf on how to ID it, show how to continually harvest blades every month, and process it.
 
Parshvik Chintan
#8 Posted : 6/18/2013 10:20:33 PM
i recommend doing something similar to what q21q21 did in his tek, where he divided it into 2 teks:
an aromatic (limonene) and an aliphatic (naphtha).
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
dreamer042
Moderator | Skills: Mostly harmless
#9 Posted : 6/18/2013 11:26:47 PM
A few notes:

Wild grass is very variable in alkaloid content, it's not a good idea to be encouraging everyone to go out and smoke whatever they extract from the grass they find growing by the river imo. Wild phalaris extract is its own unique blend of betacarbolines, tryptamines, and other compounds, and its a crapshoot what ratios of these things you may end up with. We still need to find an easy safe kitchen chem method for isolating DMT from wild grass.

Naphtha doesn't seem like a very good choice for extracting from grass, for some reason it seems to have trouble pulling the DMT from the grass. I suspect it may have to do with the DMT being in an oxide form or some such, I'll leave it to the real chemists to figure that part out. In any case, less selective solvents like limo, xylene, and of course veg oil seem to be a better choice ime. Naphtha only seems to work well with grasses if you do a zinc reduction such as in the on processing phalaris pdf.

I encourage people to research the wild grasses but I do not encourage bioassay of wild grass extract. One thing you fine folks who are interested in grasses but don't have access to analytical equipment can do to help the project is to just try doing extractions and see what you get (again please don't ingest the extracts in any manner) the more people we have trying different methods, the quicker we can nail down the most effective ones. Another thing people can do is get hold of colormetric reagents like ehrlich or marquis and test wild plant extracts (not just phalaris but whatever plants you can find that you suspect may have DMT). This method is a bit crude but it would really help us figuring out which ones are worth looking into further.

For those not interested in doing research and just looking for a good DMT source I recommend just getting hold of an aq1 clone (the literature says aquatica var australia may also be the same as aq1) until we figure out how to process the wild grass.
Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...

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Parshvik Chintan
#10 Posted : 6/19/2013 1:25:10 AM
i was under the impression that most species were considerably less variable than arundinacea.

is this mistaken?
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dreamer042
Moderator | Skills: Mostly harmless
#11 Posted : 6/19/2013 3:32:40 AM
Aquatica may be less variable but I don't think we have a lot of data on that, brachystachys seems to be very consistent, however it's best to proceed cautiously and not ingest wild plant extracts without knowing what they contain imo.
Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...

Visual diagram for the administration of dimethyltryptamine

Visual diagram for the administration of ayahuasca
 
 
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