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looking for best methods to acquire a dmt trip from my available stock. Options
 
truthevoid
#1 Posted : 1/11/2013 5:59:35 AM
Wut? So I'm really excited about my order coming in, I picked up a few things up and am looking for any input and advice on achieving my journey!!
yopo seeds (whole seed)
mimosa hostilis root bark powder
pychotria viridis leaves
syrian rue (seeds)
morning glory seeds (just because)
phalaris arundinacea seeds (once I'm doing a good extraction i plan to grow this for future needs)

So I'm in need, if i can get desired results from smoking it i would like to, but if i can use the syrian rue with ne mixture of above ingredients to make a ayahuasca. if extraction is the rout to go thats fine too it'll just be something brand new.
 
Parshvik Chintan
#2 Posted : 1/11/2013 11:05:21 AM
i would start with some rue and viridis.

i would extract the rue just because tea tastes horrid.

also i personally would save the mhrb to extract some full-spectrum jim-jam (you can save some grams for brewing, maybe around 10-15g to give you a good few oral doses). if you leave in acetate form you can orally imbibe (with MAO inhibition) or vaporize (changa is a good way to go).

also also if i were you i would extract the yopo, do a CWE (cold water extract) or an extract of the morning glory (an extract may be a little too complicated, but CWE is always viable), and plant that phalaris asap (the faster it grows the less you have to wait for it to get big enough).

best of luck and welcome to the nexus!
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
truthevoid
#3 Posted : 1/11/2013 12:28:46 PM
so I am a super noob, thank you for your dvice but if u could make it a bit more guiding and/or share good links
thanks
 
Parshvik Chintan
#4 Posted : 1/11/2013 12:53:34 PM
truthevoid wrote:
so I am a super noob, thank you for your dvice but if u could make it a bit more guiding and/or share good links
thanks

any links i would share would be from searching the forum/googling, also the wiki.
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Category:Extraction_Tek
seriously, harmala, dmt, lsa, and bufotenin (yopo) extraction teks are all in that.
also this

a CWE consists of grinding the seeds (i grind em wet so they don't heat up) and soaking the seeds in cold water for a good 8-24 hours (the dose for CWE is slightly higher than if you eat the seeds, but the nausea reduction is well worth it)

everything you need to know is contained within previous threads or the wiki of the nexus.

it is only after you search that asking for guidance is welcome.
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
truthevoid
#5 Posted : 1/12/2013 6:20:50 PM
So I have decided to go with the q21q21 tek
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My question is there any pointers that ppl could give, pointer they learned from thier succesful extract with this tek, maybe things they read in no tek but thru thier actual performing the tek or thru trial and error.
And thank ahead of time this has been a very intresting and unique road to travel and any first hand advice would be greatly appreciated
 
truthevoid
#6 Posted : 1/12/2013 7:09:56 PM
Off the subject cwe with morning glory seems like it could be worth the adveture if I decide to, but I purchased only 100 seeds from my source, can you actually use seeds from walmart
 
Parshvik Chintan
#7 Posted : 1/12/2013 9:27:43 PM
truthevoid wrote:
My question is there any pointers that ppl could give, pointer they learned from thier succesful extract with this tek, maybe things they read in no tek but thru thier actual performing the tek or thru trial and error.

the tek mentions to be careful about keeping the limo above your bark at all times, but i noticed that as long as the bark was wet (not liquidy) it didn't seem to be a problem.

i took a metal spoon and stirred VIGOROUSLY and there was a huge color change in the limo from clear to yellow to orangey-red (more orange, but there was a reddish tint).

also i had to salt the limo like... 10 times per pull at least.
a glass baster is a god-send for salting.. the first few salts i did with a glass eyedropper (they were small salts, but still it was tedious).
truthevoid wrote:
Off the subject cwe with morning glory seems like it could be worth the adveture if I decide to, but I purchased only 100 seeds from my source, can you actually use seeds from walmart

i wouldn't trust walmart seeds, they might be treated with fungicides - though iirc they must have a disclaimer on the label saying as much (so you may still want to, though i prefer to err on the side of caution).

if you have the right climate for those plants to survive, i would plant all hundred of them. if not you can start one inside then move it outdoors for the summer, but if you are going to invest your time into indoor growing, ololiuqui is the way to to.

the blossoms and the seed pods/seeds are edible, and much more potent fresh (no CWE needed, because the dosage is so much smaller - though i tried morning glory flower infused wine and it was delicious and enjoyable)
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
truthevoid
#8 Posted : 1/13/2013 7:44:25 AM
I really appreciate you sharing your information, so my questions now is should the solvent (when added for first pull) should it be added to a almost dry mix. Is this okay
 
Parshvik Chintan
#9 Posted : 1/13/2013 9:16:07 AM
truthevoid wrote:
I really appreciate you sharing your information, so my questions now is should the solvent (when added for first pull) should it be added to a almost dry mix. Is this okay

depending on what you mean by almost dry, yes.
it should be wet enough to be a sludge (the wetness helps keep the oil seperate), but other than that fairly dry.
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
truthevoid
#10 Posted : 1/13/2013 5:04:35 PM
So i want to recycle the solvent, after extracting the vinegar an then water and put in a container to the Sade, now ill do this same with all three pulls in the same container. Is it ok to stir this solution of the water and vinegar that is ready to salt
 
Parshvik Chintan
#11 Posted : 1/13/2013 5:13:02 PM
truthevoid wrote:
after extracting the vinegar an then water and put in a container to the Sade, now ill do this same with all three pulls in the same container. Is it ok to stir this solution of the water and vinegar that is ready to salt

i didn't quite comprehend this part Sad
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
truthevoid
#12 Posted : 1/13/2013 6:35:45 PM
Yeah sorry sure did not make since, so when I have my dmt containing solvent extracted in a separate dish, when I do the vinegar treatment and extract and then with water and extract and combine the two. I will do this three times with the recycled solvent. From each pull of the dmt from the solvent. Do I mix the three vinegar parts and three water parts from the extracted solvent in one container, and then should I stir it I really appreciate your timely responses
 
truthevoid
#13 Posted : 1/13/2013 6:36:56 PM
Also I was after just planning to evaporate it
 
Parshvik Chintan
#14 Posted : 1/13/2013 7:05:56 PM
truthevoid wrote:
Do I mix the three vinegar parts and three water parts from the extracted solvent in one container, and then should I stir it I really appreciate your timely responses

stirring is unnecessary, but i would combine all the saltings so all the dmt evaps together.

also i would probably salt the solvent more than 3 times before i re-used it for a pull.

probably at least 6 times, ime. but that is just me.
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
truthevoid
#15 Posted : 1/13/2013 7:16:14 PM
So I don't see to much about salting the solvent and at that more then once do you mean I should take the vinager and water extraction methods to get the dmt outta the solvent and do that multiple times be fore reusing and I'm using (mrs wages pickling like by the way) why would I need to add more like other than at the beginning
 
truthevoid
#16 Posted : 1/13/2013 8:17:54 PM
So all is understood, but would I add the Same amount of vinegar and then. The water each time I do a salt from each pulled solivent and if so at the end wouldn't I have quite amount of salt left to evaporate
 
Parshvik Chintan
#17 Posted : 1/13/2013 9:54:56 PM
truthevoid wrote:
do you mean I should take the vinegar and water extraction methods to get the dmt outta the solvent and do that multiple times be fore reusing

correct
truthevoid wrote:
So all is understood, but would I add the Same amount of vinegar and then. The water each time I do a salt from each pulled solvent and if so at the end wouldn't I have quite amount of salt left to evaporate

you don't add salt(as in NaCl).
this step is called salting, because when you add the vinegar it turns the DMT into DMT-acetate, which is a salt. this salt drops out of the limonene and into the vinegar/water.
so yes, you should have quite an amount of salt after evaporation, only instead of table salt it will be DMT Very happy
truthevoid wrote:
and I'm using (mrs wages pickling like by the way) why would I need to add more like other than at the beginning

I didn't quite understand this part either Embarrased
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CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
truthevoid
#18 Posted : 1/13/2013 10:21:58 PM
Your awesome and I will post of my succesful tek
 
truthevoid
#19 Posted : 1/14/2013 7:17:13 AM
Here once again, am now not sure if I'd like to order d-limonene online is there any place I could get an orange terpene, or something suitable locally.



Also, parshvic chintan, is there a way to get quality jim jam using sunflower oil as a subsitue (or would that not work for this tek) also would the salt process with the pulls (now dmt containing sun flower oil) be the same
 
Parshvik Chintan
#20 Posted : 1/14/2013 10:36:14 AM
from what i gather from dreamer042 and jaimie, there is no functional difference between orange oil (d-limonene) and other vegetable oils.

also limonene has many purposes, and if you are buying a relatively small amount (gallon or less) it shouldn't attract any attention.
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