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DisEmboDied
#1 Posted : 10/7/2012 1:24:02 AM
This is a simple tek I made for friends, not experts. I tried to make it as simple as possible. It works.
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Nmk8743
#2 Posted : 10/7/2012 6:54:03 AM
Just curious why besting over naphtha? And be careful with those mason jars, they will break due to the stress of extreme basic solutions...from experience haha.
 
DisEmboDied
#3 Posted : 10/8/2012 1:55:08 AM
Bestine gives bigger cleaner crystals from the start without washing.

You must use brand new mason jars before starting.

Peace!
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Nmk8743
#4 Posted : 10/8/2012 10:48:45 PM
To be honest I've never used bestine for pulls, just re-xing; but as I understand naphtha will pull more spice. It is possible though to get white/clear crystals with naphtha using stb methods and with a/b methods using naphtha I have yielded nothing but clean white dimitri. It's all preference really but damn bestine is too pricey for my taste as a pulling solvent haha.
 
anrchy
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#5 Posted : 10/9/2012 7:55:14 PM
I have a question. The turkey baster image looks just like the acrylic one I've seen at the dollar store and Walmart. Now I'm not 100% it's acrylic but I'm pretty sure it is, and if it is, you do not want to use that with solvents.

Could you clarify?
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Nmk8743
#6 Posted : 10/9/2012 8:58:42 PM
anrchy wrote:
I have a question. The turkey baster image looks just like the acrylic one I've seen at the dollar store and Walmart. Now I'm not 100% it's acrylic but I'm pretty sure it is, and if it is, you do not want to use that with solvents.

Could you clarify?


I was going to mention this as well. If you can't get lab grade supplies you're taking a risk. HDPE has worked well in a pinch and you can easily get big containers I.e. gallon vinegar jugs, milk jugs etc...
 
DisEmboDied
#7 Posted : 10/11/2012 2:28:36 AM
There are many different types of materials that one can use, many ways to skin a cat (wherever that expression came from, who does that??) I just listed the ones which were easily attainable and readily available for the sake of convenience and simplicity. The process is the important part. It is just an easy one for newbies, especially those who may only do one extraction in their life. It works.
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Leon Trout
#8 Posted : 10/11/2012 4:24:59 AM
i think the point anrchy was making was that running petro-chemicals through a regular ol' acrylic baster is likely to pick up traces of plastics... don't get me wrong, i've done such & survived as well... but if they're only maybe gonna do this once, they should probably strive for doing it the best they can...
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SnozzleBerry
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#9 Posted : 10/11/2012 1:28:33 PM
Leon Trout wrote:
i think the point anrchy was making was that running petro-chemicals through a regular ol' acrylic baster is likely to pick up traces of plastics...

This. It's unsafe. Even HDPE is considered unsuitable for the solvents being used here...and even if people want to debate the HDPE thing (although Phillips says it's no good), other plastics should not be used. period.
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#10 Posted : 10/11/2012 2:46:54 PM
It's not only unsafe, it also won't do the job. Acrylic or silicon turkey basters will crack easily using naphtha, becoming useless. You should mention that glassware is required.
 
Dethrone
#11 Posted : 10/11/2012 3:13:22 PM
I started out using a cheap 100ml syringe I got from an automotive parts store(used for mixing 2 cycle engine oil),it was HDPE 2 so I figured it would be safe for pulling.It didnt work as good as hoped so I went and bought a large cheap turkey baster.I pulled the plunger off the baster,then I cut the end off the syringe and put the plunger end on the end of the syringe and it fits almost perfectly and works great.

And as others said be very careful with those mason jars I also had one break on me once while shaking it a little too much.I was sort of prepared and had a large plastic container ready to catch most of the spillage,but a fair amount of it got on my skin as well.No damage to me but gave me a good scare.
 
DisEmboDied
#12 Posted : 10/12/2012 1:32:09 PM
I will change the baster to glass only. I never had any problems with them in the past, didn't think about it I guess. I always wished I could have full fledged Pyrex chemistry apparati, but cannot due to my living circumstances.


I found a glass baster here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp...p;ref=asc_df_B0000CFSHX

This is just a draft, I am making changes as feedback comes in...I have made these changes, though some of these notes have already been done in my instructions, found in the notes.

Scary about the mason jars thing!, I'm glad that never happened to me. I would think that they could withstand high temperatures since they are made for canning, usually hot boiling tomato or okra sauce and what not.

Peace!
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Nmk8743
#13 Posted : 10/12/2012 6:52:49 PM
DisEmbodied wrote:
I will change the baster to glass only. I never had any problems with them in the past, didn't think about it I guess. I always wished I could have full fledged Pyrex chemistry apparati, but cannot due to my living circumstances.


I found a glass baster here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp...p;ref=asc_df_B0000CFSHX

This is just a draft, I am making changes as feedback comes in...I have made these changes, though some of these notes have already been done in my instructions, found in the notes.

Scary about the mason jars thing!, I'm glad that never happened to me. I would think that they could withstand high temperatures since they are made for canning, usually hot boiling tomato or okra sauce and what not.

Peace!


Betcha your tomato sauce didn't have a ph of 13 though.
 
SeekerOfTruths
#14 Posted : 10/12/2012 7:13:45 PM
DisEmbodied wrote:

Scary about the mason jars thing!, I'm glad that never happened to me. I would think that they could withstand high temperatures since they are made for canning, usually hot boiling tomato or okra sauce and what not.
Peace!


Glass is very good at dealing with temperature, if the change in temperature is gradual.. Rapid changes pretty much guarantee cracking/shattering. Even just dropping a room temperature glass mason jar into near boiling microwaved water can shatter it. You should make sure you heat the jars up gradually. At least go from room->warm->hot, and never go from cold->hot.

And protective eye ware and gloves are never a bad thing when dealing with glass, acids and or bases! Smile
 
DisEmboDied
#15 Posted : 10/13/2012 2:48:11 AM
What do you suggest is a good/safe local alternative for mason jars and turkey basters?
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Gowpen
#16 Posted : 10/13/2012 5:35:11 AM
DisEmbodied wrote:
What do you suggest is a good/safe local alternative for mason jars and turkey basters?

My suggestion is that Glass 'IS' the safest. Stainless steel sounds OK too, I have thought of using a 2lt stainless steel coffee/traveling flask to shake with and then release pressure with screw lid, just an idea...
If glass annealing has taken place even better Like Pyrex.....

Pressure build up in the glass jar would also play a big part in determaning what to use too....
Sudden changes in tempreture will break glass easily as well.....as SeekerofTruth has already mentioned..

My preference has been to be able to see the pressure build up and release it as needed by way of the HDPE bottles (after the liquid has cooled).
Thanks to this thread I may try the Stainless flask.... any comments. Thanks
G

Ps. now iv read your tek, be carefull to only use 98-100% NaOH, many 'drain cleaners' contain other ingredients which would be bad and are not suitable...... some are 55% with what looks like aluminium grains... they are NOT all the same..Thumbs up
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DisEmboDied
#17 Posted : 10/14/2012 2:20:06 AM
Roebix is 100% sodium hydroxide
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