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cuiltheory
#1 Posted : 10/4/2012 11:17:20 PM
Well, after several succesful stb processes, last month, I took a kilo of mhrb that I just recieved, and decided to try my first a/b. Well, I spilled close to a quart of hcl into the pot that contained the bark solution. I understood that this would present a massive challenge regarding raising the ph to a degree in which the dmt would be pulled by naptha. So, I abandoned the traditional a/b tek at this point, as I just decided to play it safe and not strain my bark, so over the past few weeks, I have been adding sodium hydroxide, and water, multiple times, until I expanded the solution from two jugs, to 8 jugs (one gallon hdpe distilled water bottles), in order to add twelve lbs of lye. Despite adding so much lye, going through gallons of naptha, and eventually xyline, I have yet to retrieve anything as the solution was still not up to anywhere near 13 ph. I have no means to test ph because of how much but a teaspoon full of yellow goo that not even acetone would clean. My guess is that the ph isn't even high enough for xylene to pull spice due to the excessive muratic acid that I spilled, so do any of you have any alternative ideas for me to salvage this batch? I would like to go camping with some close friends soon, and my only other ally is outside still colonizing a massive patch of straw/worm castings/coir/verm, so this batch is my only chance of obtaining a visionary plant to learn from. Thank you in advance!
 
Kash
Senior Member | Skills: Chemistry and Programming
#2 Posted : 10/5/2012 11:29:44 PM
AHAHA a QUART of HCl??Shocked Holy shit lol that made me laugh. That is soooo much acid omg son. Ya you made it way to acidic like beyond excessively acidic. You should first try to reduce the solution down to a workable volume. Then only thing you can do is keep adding base and testing pH until it gets up to pH 13-14. Once that is acheived you may be able to pull spice with a nonpolar.

I have never heard of anyone adding that much hcl. It may have destroyed the dmt, or it may be fine.
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tony3289
#3 Posted : 10/6/2012 12:47:33 AM
Holy cow that's crazy man
Courage is not the absence of fear, it's the ability to face those fears
 
Eliyahu
#4 Posted : 10/6/2012 2:28:02 AM



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in order to add twelve lbs of lye


Shocked
And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 
cuiltheory
#5 Posted : 10/7/2012 12:35:49 AM
Well, I can only give a rough estimate of a quart, maybe less,it was an accident, and now there is no turning back. I already added so much lye, and still, even xylene is only pulling fats. I smelled a slight scent of spice in a very tiny amount of goo, but after trying to clean it up, I lost it. Typically, I would get around 7 grams/lbs mhrb, but I havent even pulled a gram, so I am thinking that the low ph either destroyed the spice, or even after all of that lye, the ph is still too low. It still gets grey emulsions when agitating that salt doesnt help with. I dunno, I was just trying to get some creative advice on some alternative method of retrieving even a small portion.
 
cuiltheory
#6 Posted : 10/14/2012 6:45:44 AM
Just to keep this thread somewhat meaningful, so perhaps someone else who makes the same mistake can use this as a reference, I still have had no luck, and upon mature consideration, I took a wiff of the solution, and found that it had a strong odor of naptha, so I stuck the entire gallon jug in the freezer, and even after a week, nothing froze! Its all still liquid form, which may strengthen my hypothesis that the naptha mixed with the aquous solution, and never separated. What do you guys think?
 
 
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