As the title says, SWIM is trying to basify a solution of 33% muriatic acid that has been added to some MHRB and pulled off. It's become worrisome because SWIM has used 2 pounds of lye to try to basify, yet the liquid remains a dark brown (when compared to previous vinegar extractions, it's not near as dark) which holds an emulsion even when left overnight...What can be done about this?

I always have problems adding lye to acids. Consider that you are maybe using too much acid. If you're adding an ingredible amount of lye and its still not basic then it means there is tons of acid. Haha. BUT! Is your only measurement for how basified it is by the color of it? Don't let color fool you. Use pH strips or something to check pH because it needs to be specific. Has you can see having to use acids and bases is difficult. Have you tried using STB and re_X your product for purity?

I think 'too much' is relative to how much material we're working with, so I don't think 'too much' is being use necessarily....Just don't have any experience with the stuff so don't exactly know how it handles. I guess what I'm looking for here is how much lye would it take to bring the ph of a 33% diluted gallon to 12?

I've been making DMT for a little bit now, STB became impractical as my search for purity and yield became more adamant, and I usually do at least one naphtha rex, one heptane rex, and then a final crystalization in some everclear or IPA, for them big shardy shards

Due to the following conversation, I'm recommending full members vote "NO":

16:22:42 ‹Pixels› we still talk about extractions in here?
16:22:54 ‹Pixels› i've run into an issue, want to know if anyone else has experience it
16:23:33 ‹wap› yeah, extractions are fine to talk about.
16:23:35 ‹wap› what's up?
16:23:40 ‹wap› which TEK are you doing?
16:23:45 ‹Pixels› my lye turned the water green....
16:24:03 ‹wap› what plant are you working with?
16:24:07 ‹Pixels› i've done 100's of extractions, first time getting this
16:24:09 ‹Pixels› none yet
16:24:22 ‹Pixels› betterbilt chemicals lye+water, water turned green
16:24:32 ‹Pixels› so now i'm here, you ever used betterbilt?
16:25:02 ‹Pixels› hmmm looking at it now from across the room it seems to be fading into a browner tone....think i'm just going to have to suck it up and use it....
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16:25:33 ‹wap› are you sure it's pure Lye?
16:25:50 ‹wap› sometimes there are chems added
16:25:58 ‹wap› what's the brand name and product name?
16:26:07 ‹Pixels› betterbilt lye
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16:26:32 ‹Pixels› it's lye alright, usually i stay away from this brand because it tends to have a lot of static in the bottle, get little bits of lye hopping around
16:26:42 ‹Pixels› bottle says 100% lye
16:26:48 ‹Pixels› buuuuuuuuuuuuuut people lye
16:27:08 ‹Pixels› they don't have an msds, just safety docs, and the docs say it's lye, say it's an extra 60g and everything....liars
16:27:40 ‹wap› so you just added lye and water?
16:27:49 ‹wap› is there plant material in the mix?
16:28:02 ‹wap› because if its just lye and water, its definitely not just lye
16:28:13 ‹wap› if its green and or brown.
16:30:06 ‹Pixels› a bit of brown tint is normal, it's a pound of lye per jug
16:30:17 ‹Pixels› but yea, greenish tint is still there, not sure what it could even be....
16:30:29 ‹Pixels› other than an addative that i'll have to deal with later....
16:31:41 ‹wap› I wouldn't use it if I were you.
16:31:57 ‹Pixels› wonder what would happen if i added straight naphtha now, see if it picks up the color...
16:32:08 ‹wap› There should not be any tint to it at all
16:32:21 ‹wap› probably nothing
16:32:39 ‹wap› Pixels, you're extracting DMT, do not take chances.
16:32:46 ‹Pixels› well if it pulls color that means something's up
16:33:10 ‹wap› I can't even find a product listing for Better Bilt Lye
16:33:12 ‹wap› at all
16:33:19 ‹wap› they do make drain cleaners.
16:33:28 ‹wap› are you using a drain cleaner liquid?
16:33:36 ‹Pixels› http://www.betterbiltchemical....erature
16:33:47 ‹Pixels› i know what i'm doing, i've been doing this for going on 5 years now my friend
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16:34:06 ‹Pixels› not using drain cleaner lol
16:34:45 ‹wap› ^^no lye listed on that webpage^^
16:35:30 ‹Pixels› http://www.betterbiltchemical....010.pdf
16:35:32 ‹Pixels› it's lye
16:35:33 ‹Pixels› 100%
16:36:33 ‹Pixels› http://www.betterbiltchemical....es.html
16:36:43 ‹Pixels› Clean-Line Hazardous material description "SODIUM HYDROXIDE, SOLID"
16:37:17 ‹Pixels› imma add naphtha and see if it pulls color from the water
16:37:21 ‹Pixels› if it does, something's fucky
16:41:42 ‹wap› was it a solid in the bottle?
16:51:49 ‹wap› Pixels, I would not use that, I've looked everywhere and there is not an available MSDS.
16:52:00 ‹wap› Which there should be for a lye product.
16:57:41 ‹VoidTraveler› ^
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16:59:13 ‹wap› reccomendation 1: https://secure.flickr.co.../extramatic/7946760508/
17:00:30 ‹wap› reccomendation 2: don't use what you have.
17:00:32 ‹VoidTraveler› awesome
17:01:43 ‹VoidTraveler› They don't seem to carry lye, those better bilt chemicals
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17:06:27 ‹wap› I'm guessing they used to make it, and whatever store still had it stocked on its shevles. But they definitly don't have an MSDS available currently.
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Based on all of that, I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt you have done 100's of extractions.
Wait...you used a gallon of 33% HCL??...and you want to get that to PH 12.
Why did you do that o_o?
If I had to ballpark a guess...I`d say 10-100+kg lol...but someone with great chemistry knowledge than me would provide a better estimate.