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HELP with the yellow goo after Xylene-pulling Options
 
Hupecat
#1 Posted : 7/5/2012 7:19:31 PM
Hi there.

SWIM did 2 extractions with 2 different solvents..
1. was "Shellsol-T", which has nearly the same behaviour as VN&P Naphta.
2. was "Zippo Lighter-fuel"

both worked quite well for extraction some chrystals.

After the 4th pull he decided to put his black MHRB-mixtures together in a bigger bottle, left in in there over 2 days mixing every now andthen.
After that, he put in some highly Xylol-containing solvent and left that for another 2 days mixing every now and then, keeping it in a bucket with 65°C warm water with was changed every few hours to keep warm..

After pulling SWIM put it in a dish in frontof a window for evaporation..
The outcaome is , that after a week now there is still quite lot of liquid in it which doesn't seem to evaporate, and a lot of yellow goo.

is it usuable in any case, (washing with IPA, or any other chemical)?, or is this just something produced for the bin???
 
endlessness
#2 Posted : 7/5/2012 7:27:43 PM
There's def gonna be DMT there, plus plant impurities and a small amount (< 1%) of other alkaloids. Dont throw it away.

You can either straight away recrystallize with naphtha, or you can redissolve redissolve in xylene (or acetone) and salt with FASA, or redissolve in xylene and salt with vinegar, and later evap your vinegar. And then you convert your salts to freebase if you want, check BLAB tek for more info (Substitute limo in the instructions for xylene, and IPA for Acetone)

Next time when working with xylene I recommend salting straight away instead of evapping
 
stolenface
#3 Posted : 7/5/2012 7:35:59 PM
just did the same me self.. Although upon recrystallization - seperated the red- i was left with yellow gellatin- Im assuming I didnt get all the oil out. I just took all of this and added it to some weak changa I had - Who knows how much was added Im assuming 2-3 grams but Ill just have to SMOALK it.....
is it - 7 hits or dosing 7 times ..... Either way I lost count along time ago, and Just type/Speak without a filter.... All of this is just one big tasty 'word salad'......
 
endlessness
#4 Posted : 7/5/2012 7:38:23 PM
You can always do a second re-x.. but yeah infusing some herbs works.. If you weigh the herbs before and after, you'll know how much it is.
 
Hupecat
#5 Posted : 7/5/2012 9:39:28 PM
endlessness wrote:
There's def gonna be DMT there, plus plant impurities and a small amount (< 1%) of other alkaloids. Dont throw it away.

You can either straight away recrystallize with naphtha, or you can redissolve redissolve in xylene (or acetone) and salt with FASA, or redissolve in xylene and salt with vinegar, and later evap your vinegar. And then you convert your salts to freebase if you want, check BLAB tek for more info (Substitute limo in the instructions for xylene, and IPA for Acetone)

Next time when working with xylene I recommend salting straight away instead of evapping

well,, actually i have some IPA , Vinegar and some Naphta here.. What is FASA?? heard u need it when you wantto make "DMT- fumarat"

Can i just add some IPA, stir it as long as it is dissolved, if it ever does?? i 've never done a re-x before, always had nice white chrystals sometimes bit yellowish, but never this kind of goo...
theproblem is as i didn't get 100%Xylol, i had to use something with main part xylol content.., so donÄt wanna use that again as Xylol again..

so, : goo, naphta, IPA

thats available here..
how to proceed now?
 
endlessness
#6 Posted : 7/5/2012 9:45:31 PM
What is the other part, if not xylol?

Get some fumaric acid on ebay or similar for the future, and next time look into BLAB tek for description of how to salt with it..

Right now, for simplicity, you can just recrystallize once or twice using naphtha. Proceedure is described in the FAQ. If in doubt, feel free to ask.
 
Hupecat
#7 Posted : 7/5/2012 9:56:22 PM
endlessness wrote:
What is the other part, if not xylol?

Get some fumaric acid on ebay or similar for the future, and next time look into BLAB tek for description of how to salt with it..

Right now, for simplicity, you can just recrystallize once or twice using naphtha. Proceedure is described in the FAQ. If in doubt, feel free to ask.

will try now with naphta... ure still here a while for any question??
 
endlessness
#8 Posted : 7/5/2012 10:43:37 PM
Yes. So what is the other part, appart from xylol?
 
mad_banshee
#9 Posted : 7/6/2012 12:53:19 AM
I've found that once you start to work that goo ( scraping it up with a razor blade and moving it about a bit ) it very quickly hardens up and then I have to spend a few minutes chopping it into finer powder.
Every xylene extraction I do this happens. I consider it normal. The resultant product is usually VERY strong as well!
Peace

Mad Banshee

Note that the poster of this message would never actually use or recommend to use illegal substances. He is just an attention seeker and should be considered to be lying about everything he posts and his posts are only for the sake of generating discussion.
 
Hupecat
#10 Posted : 7/6/2012 3:49:05 PM
endlessness wrote:
What is the other part, if not xylol?

Get some fumaric acid on ebay or similar for the future, and next time look into BLAB tek for description of how to salt with it..

Right now, for simplicity, you can just recrystallize once or twice using naphtha. Proceedure is described in the FAQ. If in doubt, feel free to ask.



Well,
I dissolved the 3gr of the goo in 50 ml of naphta, resulting in a milky looking naphta with some sludge layer at the bottom, which i decanted then.
the put in a dish, some foil and in the freezer over night.
thats the output, which i do not know what to do now, if i'll try to let evaporate i guess it will become goo again


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endlessness
#11 Posted : 7/6/2012 4:26:14 PM
Im not sure what I see there... Are there crystals formed?

If you cant harvest any crystals from it (even if impure), you can evaporate it all and recrystallize again whatever is left. Each re-x will get you closer to white crystals.

By the way, 50ml per 3g is too little, did you throw the sludge away? There was prbably still some DMT there, so you could do yet another pull there if you didnt.

Or anyways just keep going with what you have. Dont throw anything away till the end Smile
 
Hupecat
#12 Posted : 7/6/2012 4:58:52 PM
endlessness wrote:
Im not sure what I see there... Are there crystals formed?

If you cant harvest any crystals from it (even if impure), you can evaporate it all and recrystallize again whatever is left. Each re-x will get you closer to white crystals.

By the way, 50ml per 3g is too little, did you throw the sludge away? There was prbably still some DMT there, so you could do yet another pull there if you didnt.

Or anyways just keep going with what you have. Dont throw anything away till the end Smile

yeah, didn't have more naphta left... and its not really chrystals forming.. some small yellow dots..

shall i just give it a goo and let it run through a coffee filter funnnel again??, or what do you mean with harvesting?

 
endlessness
#13 Posted : 7/6/2012 5:06:21 PM
Small yellow dots is probably small impure crystals. By harvesting I mean just getting your crystals (for example pouring out the naphtha and scraping the crystals and letting them finish drying). Then re-x them.

If for some reason the crystals melt again or you cant scrape them or whatever, you can just let it all evap and then recrystallize again.
 
Felnik
#14 Posted : 7/6/2012 5:21:17 PM
When evoporating spice from xylene moving it around and scraping
With a fan on it helps and it will solidfy into a dry useable consistency
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
Arthur C. Clarke


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Hupecat
#15 Posted : 7/6/2012 5:27:31 PM
endlessness wrote:
Small yellow dots is probably small impure crystals. By harvesting I mean just getting your crystals (for example pouring out the naphtha and scraping the crystals and letting them finish drying). Then re-x them.

If for some reason the crystals melt again or you cant scrape them or whatever, you can just let it all evap and then recrystallize again.

my fear ist just, as im a relatively neewbie.., i had some chrystals in extraction before, which completetely disappeared in coffefilter??

this is the glas i used to dissolve the sludge yesterday... its an old glas for pepper or salt.. was 3/4 full with milky naphta and after puring that was left...

 
Hupecat
#16 Posted : 7/6/2012 8:39:28 PM
endlessness wrote:
Small yellow dots is probably small impure crystals. By harvesting I mean just getting your crystals (for example pouring out the naphtha and scraping the crystals and letting them finish drying). Then re-x them.

If for some reason the crystals melt again or you cant scrape them or whatever, you can just let it all evap and then recrystallize again.


but how to recrystallize the ones that melt in the coffefilter?? i pour naphta with floating chrystals through it, and theyre gone...

only way is then to evaporate again, etc.. ?????
 
Hupecat
#17 Posted : 7/6/2012 8:43:33 PM
endlessness wrote:
Small yellow dots is probably small impure crystals. By harvesting I mean just getting your crystals (for example pouring out the naphtha and scraping the crystals and letting them finish drying). Then re-x them.

If for some reason the crystals melt again or you cant scrape them or whatever, you can just let it all evap and then recrystallize again.

the problem is, there is nothing stuck on the glas.. all floating
 
endlessness
#18 Posted : 7/6/2012 9:10:18 PM
you can try filtering but they may soak the filter (wouldnt be a problem though, run warm naphtha on the filter and it will pick up DMT, then evap it). Or you can try leaving for longer to see if it sticks to the glass.

or just evap the whole thing and recrystallize again
 
Hupecat
#19 Posted : 7/6/2012 10:04:38 PM
endlessness wrote:
Small yellow dots is probably small impure crystals. By harvesting I mean just getting your crystals (for example pouring out the naphtha and scraping the crystals and letting them finish drying). Then re-x them.

If for some reason the crystals melt again or you cant scrape them or whatever, you can just let it all evap and then recrystallize again.

the problem is, there is nothing stuck on the glas.. all floating
 
endlessness
#20 Posted : 7/6/2012 10:24:32 PM
weird, you repeated your answer but I have answered this above already Smile
 
 
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