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OMGLOLZ
#1 Posted : 6/30/2012 5:49:07 PM
Hey guys, I've been reading these types of forums for a long time mostly as a result of Google. SWIM's going to try to do a DMT extraction, his first one. I'm sure these questions are asked frequently so I really appreciate those of you who will be supportive.


SO the Tek SWIM is going to use is this one, the one in the second paragraph.
TEK of Choice


Now he vaugely understands the process so if you have a nice piece of literature describing each part of the process and why it is important in a way that layman can understand then he is down to read about that as well. He has already a few in-depth explanations such as this but a few more couldn't hurt. Embarrased


Now SWIM has access to Lye which he has already purchased, and has the mimosa making it's way as we speak. However two of the most commonly used ingredients in Tek's he's seen are Ammonium Hydroxide and Naptha. The problem is that those are two impossible to find items in Canada. He can't even find a retailer online that will ship them to Canada. So there's two questions SWIM has for you:


Is there a retailer online that will sell those products to a Canadian? Swim does not believe they are illegal. (Upon rethinking this question SWIM has come to the conclusion that it is unlikely they would ship him any sort of fuel). Thumbs down


Can SWIM replace them with something else? To his understanding there are alternatives in stores, but they all have some sort of additive that requires extra steps but those steps are never listed! SWIM has come to the conclusion that he can replace the Ammonium wash instead with a less toxic Sodium Carbonate wash. He's keen on doing that as that is widely available instore and online. As for the alternatives to the the Naptha these are the two available options it seems he's found, although members of the nexus have advised against using them. Xylene & Toluene.


Any suggestions on how SWIM can make these products work and finish with a yield of pure white crystals, instead of lung poisoning "Jungle Spice"? Thank you so much for your help, SWIM is really glad a place like this exists. Love
All I know is that I know nothing.
 
endlessness
#2 Posted : 6/30/2012 6:32:06 PM
Welcome to the Nexus!

Forget ammonia, theres no need for it. If you want to wash your solvent, wash with sodium carbonate solution (sodium carb can be made from sodium bicarbonate https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...te_into_Sodium_Carbonate ).

As for where to get naphtha, check this: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=14772 maybe it helps

Both xylene and toluene can be used, but be sure to work in a well ventilated area. They smell nasty and may call attention of neighbours so be careful, maybe put a paint bucket outside to pretend your painting or whatever.

Also dont evaporate it, nasty as hell and wasteful. Instead, salt your alkaloids out if you use any of those solvents. You can salt it out with FASA (ideally) or FASW. Read BLAB tek for more details on how to salt the fumarates, just substitute FAS(IPA) for FAS(Acetone). You can get cheap fumaric acid here:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=14348

also check BLAB tek for how to convert fumarates to freebase for smoking.

Good luck!
 
OMGLOLZ
#3 Posted : 6/30/2012 6:45:28 PM
You're a hero man, thanks for the help I'll start looking into those alternatives now. God Speed my friends.
All I know is that I know nothing.
 
OMGLOLZ
#4 Posted : 7/1/2012 12:32:22 AM
endlessness wrote:
Welcome to the Nexus!

Forget ammonia, theres no need for it. If you want to wash your solvent, wash with sodium carbonate solution (sodium carb can be made from sodium bicarbonate https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...te_into_Sodium_Carbonate ).

As for where to get naphtha, check this: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=14772 maybe it helps

Both xylene and toluene can be used, but be sure to work in a well ventilated area. They smell nasty and may call attention of neighbours so be careful, maybe put a paint bucket outside to pretend your painting or whatever.

Also dont evaporate it, nasty as hell and wasteful. Instead, salt your alkaloids out if you use any of those solvents. You can salt it out with FASA (ideally) or FASW. Read BLAB tek for more details on how to salt the fumarates, just substitute FAS(IPA) for FAS(Acetone). You can get cheap fumaric acid here:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=14348

also check BLAB tek for how to convert fumarates to freebase for smoking.

Good luck!


One more question! What exactly is lime? Like straight lime juice or what? If not then what do I need to mix it with? Thank again you're a champ.
All I know is that I know nothing.
 
endlessness
#5 Posted : 7/1/2012 10:12:37 AM
lime is calcium hydroxide, NOT lime juice. One is a base, the other is acidic
 
 
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