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ImJustStarting
#1 Posted : 6/23/2012 8:40:56 PM
Alright so im getting confused on a step in which invloves evaporation.

Okay so lets say it's this scenario:

i extracted the Naptha with the Pipette(with the DMT in it) And i place it inside a glass jar.


...Then i put it in the freezer and it evaporates? I thought you needed heat?
Im sorry for these small questions, i just want this to be perfect. Thank you!
 
joeshmo
#2 Posted : 6/23/2012 9:45:20 PM
Placing the naptha in the freezer results in a freeze precipitation, not evaporation.

It works like this: solvents can contain different amounts of solute at different temperatures. In this case, the solvent is Naptha, the solute is DMT. At warmer temperatures, DMT is highly soluble in naptha. At low temperatures (such as those found in your freezer), the solubility drops, causing the DMT to "Crash" out of your naptha solution and form crystals at the bottom of your dish. After you freeze precipitate, you can evaporate the naptha in a dish at room temperature to retreive anything that didn't freeze precipitate (I usually find that most of what is left is yellowish and goopy, but psychoactive nonetheless.) You could also reuse the naptha for more pulls.

Best of luck!
 
ImJustStarting
#3 Posted : 6/24/2012 3:12:28 AM
Right, so i would freeze it, and then drain it out and let it evaporate? I seen this one picture where they put a lightbulp inside the jar, does this work faster/better?
 
Noman
Senior Member
#4 Posted : 6/24/2012 3:29:58 AM
An electric lightbulb in a jar of solvent?
Sounds like a faster better booby trap to me.
Don't do that.
 
ImJustStarting
#5 Posted : 6/24/2012 3:32:01 AM
Maybe not inside the bowl but facing towards it? Like 3-4 inches off?
 
joeshmo
#6 Posted : 6/24/2012 5:25:50 AM
Light does not help with evaporation. Heat and airflow do however. I would NEVER put a lightbulb with a heating element anywhere near solvent. Naptha burns hot and fast.

If you need to force evap, use a small fan in a wide, shallow container. The more surface area, the faster it will evaporate. I suggest doing this outside.

 
ImJustStarting
#7 Posted : 6/24/2012 7:39:14 AM
joeshmo wrote:
Light does not help with evaporation. Heat and airflow do however. I would NEVER put a lightbulb with a heating element anywhere near solvent. Naptha burns hot and fast.

If you need to force evap, use a small fan in a wide, shallow container. The more surface area, the faster it will evaporate. I suggest doing this outside.



Thank you for this information! Im going to lay out the Naptha extraction onto a pyrex dish pan and have a fan cool it faster.
 
dragonaut000
#8 Posted : 6/25/2012 1:33:01 AM
By the way way DO NOT evaporate anything in your fridge or freezer!!! hahaha... I threw a tray of xylene in my fridge just to get it out of the way for a little while and it did some serious damage to a sandwich I had in there. The vile taste before I spat it out still haunts me...
 
ImJustStarting
#9 Posted : 6/25/2012 6:12:20 AM
dragonaut000 wrote:
By the way way DO NOT evaporate anything in your fridge or freezer!!! hahaha... I threw a tray of xylene in my fridge just to get it out of the way for a little while and it did some serious damage to a sandwich I had in there. The vile taste before I spat it out still haunts me...



So can i place the extracted naptha into a pyrex dish and seal the top with those see-through plastic wrap? After leave it out in room temp with a fan blowing on the batch, right?
 
dragonaut000
#10 Posted : 6/25/2012 5:32:54 PM
I don't like to cover with weak materials like plastic wrap or aluminum foil but given the choice i would go with tin foil. I think it should be okay as long as there isn't any caustic material in your dish. I have used it before for this purpose and everything seemed to turn out o.k. I may be being overly cautious but I always imagine the solvent fumes eating away at the plastic wrap and little plastic molecules floating down into my hard work. Someone else could give you a more educated answer but that's my two cents.

After you freeze it (super cold 12-24 hours) there will be little snow balls stuck nicely to the bottom and sides of your dish. Take your dish directly from the freezer and immediately dump off the naptha into a new clean dish leaving your snow balls stuck to the first dish. If your pure white dmt seems to be floating around you will have to filter your naptha. Filtering sucks! In a kitchen setup you could filter through a coffee filter or use a glass turkey baster with a few pipe screens stuck in it if your dmt snow balls are big enough to get caught in them.

Hope this helps dude! The key to a good extraction for me is understanding each step as scientifically as I can and then making sure I can visualize each step. This will help you forsee potential problems with your supplies and procedure.
 
ImJustStarting
#11 Posted : 6/25/2012 8:43:00 PM
dragonaut000 wrote:
I don't like to cover with weak materials like plastic wrap or aluminum foil but given the choice i would go with tin foil. I think it should be okay as long as there isn't any caustic material in your dish. I have used it before for this purpose and everything seemed to turn out o.k. I may be being overly cautious but I always imagine the solvent fumes eating away at the plastic wrap and little plastic molecules floating down into my hard work. Someone else could give you a more educated answer but that's my two cents.

After you freeze it (super cold 12-24 hours) there will be little snow balls stuck nicely to the bottom and sides of your dish. Take your dish directly from the freezer and immediately dump off the naptha into a new clean dish leaving your snow balls stuck to the first dish. If your pure white dmt seems to be floating around you will have to filter your naptha. Filtering sucks! In a kitchen setup you could filter through a coffee filter or use a glass turkey baster with a few pipe screens stuck in it if your dmt snow balls are big enough to get caught in them.

Hope this helps dude! The key to a good extraction for me is understanding each step as scientifically as I can and then making sure I can visualize each step. This will help you forsee potential problems with your supplies and procedure.


I love how you want to understand everystep scientifucaly, maybe i should jump into all the chemicals and things too! Also, i recently read on one of my post's that extracting DMT from Mimosa Hostilis, will give you 'Spice'. my main question now is, will this still put me in a new dimension? Or will this feel the same as that Salvia divinorum bullshit?
 
dragonaut000
#12 Posted : 6/25/2012 10:34:11 PM
This will definitely NOT be like that salvia divinorum "bullshit." You've already pulled some white spice, right? As long as it's nice and dry you can gently melt some (50-100mg) onto tobacco or mary j and twist yourself a cigarette/cigar/joint. I highly recommend this to first timers in order to get the threshold effects, which are quite strong in and of themselves. This will give you an idea of what the come up will be like before you take a real dose of spice (20-50mg vaporized in two large hits.) A breakthrough dose of spice is NOTHING TO FUCK WITH. haha. I highly recommend you read about some first time breakthroughs because at this point you are wildly unprepared!
Prepare to completely dissolve your self in the psychedelic ether! Very happy
Be warned that the come up effects from a cigar laced with spice can also be quite strong and, to the unprepared, somewhat overwhelming. I have exposed some less experienced folks to this effect and they did not come back for more Laughing
 
ImJustStarting
#13 Posted : 6/25/2012 11:38:24 PM
It sounds scary. I love it.
No but seriously, i cant wait. No i havent YET made my first pull, im waiting on my items to come in the mail, BUT i have been taking so much notes on DMT. I have great confidence in my future batches.

Wish me luck. Thumbs up
 
dragonaut000
#14 Posted : 6/26/2012 6:34:20 AM
Good luck! You won't need it though. You're taking a walk down easy street here.
 
ImJustStarting
#15 Posted : 6/26/2012 6:42:58 AM
How so?
 
dragonaut000
#16 Posted : 6/26/2012 7:23:39 AM
Well for one thing you have all the fine folks and information at the nexus at your fingertips.

Safety-wise there are only two things you have to remember during this extraction:

1. Lye is caustic. It will burn your ass. Do not breathe in the Lye, or get it in your eyes or mouth, or on your skin. If you do get a lye burn neutralize it with plain old white vinegar. Ever seen Fight Club?

2. Your solvent is most likely flammable and toxic to breathe. Do not expose your solvent (naptha, xylene, etc.) to an open flame. Do not smoke around it etc. Work in a well ventilated space so that you don't pass out or go dumb from breathing the fumes.

Remember these two things, follow the tek, be discreet and you will end up having a blast extracting. When it is done you will have a sacrament of the highest quality for what is a pittance in work, money, and mental effort. A cake walk. Easy street. I was experimenting successfully on my first extraction. I ended up with pure spice, yellow spice, orange spice, and jimjam. I made changa with some caapi alkaloids, passion flower, and damiana. I highly recommend you make at least one gram of changa with your first extraction. It could make the difference in whether you really enjoy spice.

Extraction is easy because god loves us. I'd love to do it again but really one decent extraction yields practically a life time supply for the average person.

Have fun and above all Be Safe Cool
 
 
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