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Too Much Water and Vinegar - Marsofold Extraction Options
 
CanyonRedRock
#1 Posted : 1/22/2012 9:18:02 AM
I set out to doing a Marsofold extraction today, with 1/4lb of MHRB. I planned on using measurements 1/4 the volume that is called for in the tek, as it is based on 1lb of MHRB. During the water/vinegar stage, I accidentally used double the volume of both vinegar and water that I should have used so that I ended up with 1/4 the amount of MHRB powder, but 1/2 the amount of vinegar/water solution. Sad

Can I go on with the extraction adjusting for this error by adding something like 8tbsp of lye (5/3 the amount originally called for) with the 1 pint of water to compensate for the dilution of chemicals in the extra water? I feel like I completely screwed myself. Crying or very sad
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ChickenTikka
#2 Posted : 1/22/2012 4:20:13 PM
Can you link me to this tek.

Anyway, it should work fine if you just use the amount of lye appropriate for the amount of vinegar/water. Just means you will have a lower concentration of dissolved DMT.

Also you cant really add too much lye as DMT can withstand a high PH for extended periods.
 
CanyonRedRock
#3 Posted : 1/23/2012 8:41:21 AM
Sorry, I'm having trouble finding a link, but here's the complete Marsofold Extraction text:


Marsofold’s TEK
Mimosa Hostilis

How to easily extract DMT:
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Break 1-Pound of Mimosa Hostilis root bark into 2" pieces and grind it all up in a glass-topped blender, a little at a time.
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Polar Extraction: Premix in an empty 1-Gallon plastic jug: 1-Quart White Vinegar & 3-Quarts Water. Put the ground up Mimosa in a 3-Liter crockpot, then fill it with the water-vinegar solution (2 quarts/liters). Stir well and turn it on "high". After 2 hours, remove the crockpot ceramic liner, hold the lid on slightly offset, and pour off most of the liquid into a 1-gallon wide-mouthed glass or stainless container. Add the remaining water-vinegar solution to the crockpot again. Stir well and turn it on "high". After 2 hours, remove the crockpot ceramic liner, hold the lid on slightly offset, and pour off all of the liquid into the same container again. Discard the rootbark fiber, and save the two combined extractions in the 1-gallon container. Allow the vegetable particles in the extraction in the 1-gallon container to settle to the bottom overnight. Then pour off the liquid into an empty (1-Gallon) glass wine jug, being careful not to pour off any of the vegetable sludge at the bottom. Save the sludge in the jar you stored the rootbark fiber previously, and keep the contents of the wine jug.
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Basification: Premix in advance a solution of: 5 Tablespoons (63grams) of Sodium Hydroxide ("Red Devil" lye) with 1-Pint of WARM Water. Stir well. Slowly add this solution to the wine jug, then cap the jug. Gently tilt the wine jug back and forth for 1 full minute to mix the contents.
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Nonpolar Extraction: Add 250ml of (Ace Hardware) VM&P Naptha to the wine jug. Add exactly enough warm water to the jug to raise the liquid level to an inch below the top, then cap the jug. Gently tilt the wine jug slowly back and forth for 5 full minutes to mix the contents. Allow the jug to sit undisturbed on a table for at least 4 hours. There should now be two layers visible in the jug, a lower dark one and a smaller clear one on top filling the neck of the jug. Use a glass turkey baster to suck up the top clear layer into a pint mason jar. Be careful not to suck up any of the lower brown/black layer into the mason jar.
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Freeze-precipitation/wash: place the sealed mason jar in a FREEZER for 3 days to precipitate the crystals. Prepare a filter setup by placing a funnel into a quart mason jar and putting a small coffee filter paper into the funnel. Shake the naptha in the mason jar strongly to stir up all the crystals at the bottom and quickly pour while still very cold into the funnel for filtering. Impure yellow-white DMT crystals will be seen on the coffee filter paper. Allow the crystals to completely dry out on the filter paper in the funnel. Premix a wash solution by mixing equal parts of Distilled Water and NON-SOAPY clear Ammonium Hydroxide(Ace Hardware Janitorial Strength Ammonia) into a pint container. Slowly pour 100ml of the wash solution over the crystals (still in the filter paper) to wash them. Remove the filter paper from the funnel, spread it out flat and allow the crystals to COMPLETELY dry out. You will now have 2-1/2 grams of white crystal DMT. At least 50 strong doses. Mix it with some parsley and smoke a little in your favorite pipe!
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SnozzleBerry
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#4 Posted : 1/23/2012 3:26:38 PM
After you remove your vinegar/water from the mhrb mixture, you can simmer it in a stainless steel pot to reduce the volume so that it corresponds to the fraction of the tek you are employing. No need for extra chems or workarounds...just reduce it to the volume you were supposed to have initially Very happy
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CanyonRedRock
#5 Posted : 1/25/2012 12:58:42 AM
Ahah! Genius solution, so complex! Laughing
Thank you very much for the suggestions!
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-Shen
 
CanyonRedRock
#6 Posted : 1/25/2012 1:07:21 AM
It just occurred to me that now that I have already basified my solution, it may not be the best
idea to boil off some volume of water. Especially considering the fact that I used nearly twice
the amount of NaOH that would be recommended for my amount of MHRB, in order to reach pH 13. It sounds like
a horrible idea to me - it would double the concentration of sodium hydroxide, no? I imagine that
it would probably be a much better idea to just continue with the extraction, using double the naphtha to
keep the concentration about the same as it usually would be. Any thoughts?
"The Power of Being, Opening to Light, It Could Take A Thousand Years, It Could Happen in A Night"
-Shen
 
d*l*b
#7 Posted : 1/25/2012 1:21:48 AM
The volume of basified solution you have will not cause issues. I would simply continue as normal. I tend to use as much naphtha as feels right at any time, generally somewhere 70–100mL per pull these days. Keep pulling until the amounts being retrieved get too small for you to want to do another Smile
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