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Extracting 5-MEO-DMT Options
 
icekila
#1 Posted : 12/9/2011 1:36:46 PM
Does anyone know how to extract pure 5-meo-dmt from virola resin?
 
endlessness
#2 Posted : 12/9/2011 5:08:19 PM
The first problem is finding some virola resin that has good 5-MeO-DMT content in the first place... Apparently a lot of what is sold commercially has very low alkaloid content.

If you do find, a simple A/B extraction like with DMT should work. Maybe dry-basifying resin, pulling with acetone and adding FASA could work, to get fumarates. So far there have been very few if any reports of 5-MeO extractions, so its hard to say. There was some time back where 69ron suggested maybe hydroxide bases could damage 5-MeO-DMT, but ron also made several other dubious claims, and I dont think there's any chemical reason for that. In any case you could try using a base such as sodium carbonate, specially if you do a dry pull.

As for solvents, most, if not all, solvents used for DMT should work. In literature, petroleum ether (equivalent to naphtha) is used for the final crystallization, so 5-MeO should be soluble in it, though not very much.
 
icekila
#3 Posted : 12/9/2011 9:20:10 PM
I was talking to 69ron and he says that its not 5-meo-dmt in the resin but 5-meo-dmt n-oxide and it needs a specific extraction.
 
ragabr
#4 Posted : 12/9/2011 9:41:32 PM
69ron probably doesn't have the analytical equipment to determine that, what with all the Flowing Visions issues.
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Noman
Senior Member
#5 Posted : 12/10/2011 1:23:29 AM
Oddly enough, this:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=67329
showed up on Erowid a few days ago, authored by our old friend Baron.
 
endlessness
#6 Posted : 12/10/2011 10:57:46 AM
5-MeO-DMT N-oxide could be reduced to the parent compound using zinc and acetic acid.

By the way AFAIK there has not been one single published report of 5-MeO-DMT N-oxide in virola species.

In any case, let us know if you try anything, whether it works or not!
 
Madcap
#7 Posted : 12/10/2011 4:12:38 PM
Noman wrote:
Oddly enough, this:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=67329
showed up on Erowid a few days ago, authored by our old friend Baron.



he also slipped in a mention "Dibufotenoxide" just for me.... knowing I am always teetering on the edge of attempting yet another bufo extraction

probably not, but I am always teetering on the edge of attempting yet another bufo extraction.... and I have pinned the scapegoat tail on ron

good luck OP
All posts written by Madcap should be regarded as fiction.
 
 
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