Alright, SWIM is thinking about preforming a DMT extraction and like alot of others out there is having issues finding pure or clean naptha. SWIM has access to coleman fuel and Varsol, but isn't touching the coleman flud because of its numerous reports of its product being green, mushy, and impure. SWIM heard about some one questioning if Varsol worked and the question was never answered. Would varsol work as a naptha alternative? The Tek in question is the nomans Tek FTR. Thanks Community! Edit: Varsol is known to evaporate significantly slower than naptha. Another question is, does any Canadians here know where to purchase some clean naptha? Brand names I should be on the look for? With as much info as SWIM has, Ronosol lighterfluid (spellings probably off), and coleman stove fluid is not the greatest choice. ALSO! SWIM has taken the liberty of digging alot in a little time and has discovered some new solvents in question. Recochem Lacquer Thinner -> http://ilrc.ucf.edu/samp...etail.php?sample_id=532 Recochem Clear Kerosine -> http://ilrc.ucf.edu/samp...etail.php?sample_id=530 SWIM isnt exactly sure what is supposed to be seen in the chemical make up list of each substance. What isnt part of naptha in the list? I am not SWIM. SWIM is a fictitious character that likes to preform extractions out in space where it is legal to do so. Any and all posts by this user are fictional and are there for entertainment purposes only.
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SWIM has used Ronsonol, Escort fuel and one he got at his local grocery store that was clear and smelled like the other 2. All worked exactly the same. Of course he only uses naptha for tests now, he uses xylene or toluene or d-limonene because no heat is needed and you get all the active alkaloids. Xylene or Toluene can be bought for like 15-20 bucks a gallon at Home depot or Rona, d-limonene ordered online (for much more) Can't say much about these other solvents... Q21Q21's Tek: A comprehensive guide to extracting DMTThe 2 teks use non-toxic lime and vinegar and Tek 1: d-Limonene or Xylene or Tek 2: Naptha to produce very quick high yields with the greatest of ease.I am almost never on this site anymore so I will likely not answer PMs
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q21q21 wrote:SWIM has used Ronsonol, Escort fuel and one he got at his local grocery store that was clear and smelled like the other 2.
All worked exactly the same.
Of course he only uses naptha for tests now, he uses xylene or toluene or d-limonene because no heat is needed and you get all the active alkaloids. Xylene or Toluene can be bought for like 15-20 bucks a gallon at Home depot or Rona, d-limonene ordered online (for much more)
Can't say much about these other solvents... ______________________________________________________________________ Thanks a lot! Xylene and Toluene.. So Any Solvent, Either Vm&p Naphtha, Toluene, or Xylene can be used for the non-polar solvent as in the same proportions as given in the Nomans Tek?. It seems the more I get into this, the more advanced this basic organic chemistry looks. So much for Chem in High-school.. Ide really like for this to turn out well! Will Post pictures in time I am not SWIM. SWIM is a fictitious character that likes to preform extractions out in space where it is legal to do so. Any and all posts by this user are fictional and are there for entertainment purposes only.
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You cant freeze precipitate xylene or toluene because dmt is too soluble in it even at freeze temperatures. They also smell horrible, btw..
I would suggest you check into limonene extractions, such as BLAB, Amor Fati's non-toxic approach or q21's tek (though they might seem to be a bit longer/more complicated, if you understand the principles its actually pretty simple, and its so much more pleasant working with orange oil than with petrochemicals)
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endlessness wrote:You cant freeze precipitate xylene or toluene because dmt is too soluble in it even at freeze temperatures. They also smell horrible, btw..
I would suggest you check into limonene extractions, such as BLAB, Amor Fati's non-toxic approach or q21's tek (though they might seem to be a bit longer/more complicated, if you understand the principles its actually pretty simple, and its so much more pleasant working with orange oil than with petrochemicals) Thanks! I understand that by now actually. With a little reading around, one picks up on a lot pretty quick. A bit more reading might just make this limonene extraction business look like a cake walk. Ill make sure to post what rout I take in some future posts when I'm ready to do so I am not SWIM. SWIM is a fictitious character that likes to preform extractions out in space where it is legal to do so. Any and all posts by this user are fictional and are there for entertainment purposes only.
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You can also get Bestine (n-heptane) from higher end art supply stores. Sold as a rubber cement thinner. Works great from recrystallizing, have not tried for general pulls but have heard it works very well, evaps fairly clean as well. Psychonautical musical adventuresI am the Pickled Herring, raging through the streets of Aurangabad. Smiting the simian fortress of Agartha I fly with pan liners and garbage bags attached to my million tentacles of horrid putrefaction, eating souls and raining down corpses on the mighty city of Gruad. Hail Er is!
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Ronsonal lighter fluid is a good source of naptha, can be found at any Canadian Tire, comes in a big yellow bottle. Evaporates cleanly and is fairly cheap it should work for you. "This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill β the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill β you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."
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SWIM tried CDN TIRE brand camping fuel and ronsonol light fluid. The Camping Fuel left a very clear residue upon evaporation, whereas ronsonol evapped without a trace!
RONSONOL is the safest bet, can be found in CDN tire!
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I have not tested it, but other canadians have pointed me in the direction of ESCORT fuels (available at canadian tire). I had heard elsewhere that it was the same as Colemans, which DOES have a blue antirust agent in it, but apparently it's not. good luck. JBArk JBArk is a Mandelthought; a non-fiction character in a drama of his own design he calls "LIFE" who partakes in consciousness expanding activities and substances; he should in no way be confused with SWIM, who is an eminently data-mineable and prolific character who has somehow convinced himself the target he wears on his forehead is actually a shield.
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well i am not swim there fore i dont trust swim. i recenty had the same problem trying to find lye and naptha in a varity of places and even hard time finding ph papers wtf!!! i found lye in the plumming section as 100% sodium hydrixide i found naptha in zippo lighter fluid although no one carrys it any more due to ppl using it to make drugs and huffing it. i had settled for colmans camp fuel. and later bougt some lighter fluid and work with that and ph paper i dont know why i cant find them the closest i can come to is pool and spa test strips wich did not work at all cuz they only go form 6.7ph ot 8.9ph i ended up buying a test kit that uses drops wich i realized that would not work because the murky bark water would not be clear to show the differance in ph. so that is life can any one help? also i extracted some today a small amount i purchased 100g just to get the feel of things. i dont intend on doing this dmt that i make just to get the hand of it and when i do i will buy a few lbs. my bigest flaws so far have been no ph papers and no scale to mesure out lye so on and so on. i also have not been able to see the ph of my acid bath so i might have put too much and left it in to long? and eye balled the lye what a crapy experiment good thing i did not make a huge batch but i hope that if i recrystalize it a few time mike make things right. well thank god for a learning curve! these post are excerpts from the daily life of a madman. One thinks that thought should be left alone......
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zippo lighter fluid, though expensive in comparison to buying solvent in a hardwarestore, is a suitable naptha and has resulted to be clean for me....it's difficult to get naptha in mexico too
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I realise this is old but I just want to update - I Used Ronsonol lighter fluid for my first 3-4 stb teks and it definetly works. Then after reading a similar thread suggesting this escort brand, I decided to give it a try. The difference was night and day. Escort actually grows the circular crystals you see people posting on the nexus, while ronsonol gives you tiny specs. ESCORT CAMP FUEL is a billion times better at pulling more dmt in each pull AND yielding purer product before additional purification is even done. If you check the MSDS sheets for these two brands, there in lies the answer why. βThe quest is to be liberated from the negative, which is really our own will to nothingness. And once having said yes to the instant, the affirmation is contagious. It bursts into a chain of affirmations that knows no limit. To say yes to one instant is to say yes to all of existence.β
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Hey guys- Just an update for my fellow Canadians, I have been informed that the Escort Camp fuel (Naptha) has been discontinued So I guess we have to use Ronsonol ($$$) or that coleman stuff, but I got some here in BC, and it had a reddish tinge to it, and that tinge came through on to my extracted spice... not cool. A recrystallization with the Ronsonol took care of that (and left me with some really nice white, crystally spice  ) So the constant canadian struggle for good, cheap naptha continues... if anyone knows of any good alternatives here in canada, I would love to hear about em! Much Love and Respect
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I have used Jon-E Handwarmer Fluid but I don't know if it's still available and I'm not sure if it 100%. Also I just finished off a can of Energine Spot Remover which is 100% naptha. "You cannot see Me with your normal eyes, therefore I give you divine eyes with which to behold the Power of My Yoga." Bhagavad Gita, chapter 11, The Universal Form, verse 8
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Theres a small painting store chain(forgot the name) across canada. they sell pure vm&p naptha. Pulls white only, barely any yellow and only if you near simmer to pull. INFORMATION No input signal
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I know they carry that one at the MEC. Anyone know if this would work well? Apparently it is naphta and is "clear of additives", so I figure it would be all right. http://cascadedesigns.co...ories/superfuel/product
I'm thinking about going out and get some of it for my next extraction... "If you have any answers, We will be glad to provide full and detailed questions."
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