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BigJungleBuds
#1 Posted : 6/8/2019 3:55:18 PM
I want to do a simple hbwr seed extraction but don't quite understand this I am familiar with many other extractions with other Ethnobotanicals mhrb dmt yopo cebil bufotenine, just want the full effects of lsa without the nausea but can't do the advances kash extraction so in this tek

Materials Required


Source Material:
250 HBWR seeds I only have 100 to spare for this


Solvents:
IPA 99% or Acetone (for powder) I only have IPA and acetone anhydrous
Everclear or Vodka (for liquid)
Naphtha

Equipment:
2 jars
evap dish






Contents [hide]
1 Preface
2 Steps 2.1 Step 1
2.2 Step 2
2.3 Step 3
2.4 Step 4
2.5 Step 5
2.6 Step 6
2.7 Step 7

3 Dosage
4 Reference

Preface

This tek is for making some very strong LSA extract.

Steps

Step 1

Grind the seeds to powder and put in one jar. Understood

Step 2

Do a naptha wash, so add napta until 5cm above the seeds.

So discard the naphtha and keep the solids??? Here or add the IPA or acetone to the naphtha and pull off the IPA or acetone and keep to evap I don't get this please explain

Step 3

Repeat step 2 [4x] (for votka and everclear), [10x] (for acetone and IPA)

So with acetone or IPA even though stronger than votka and everclear either wash after washed with naphtha then discarded and with solids wash with IPA and acetone like naphtha but keep the IPA or acetone for evaporation

Step 4

Discard the naptha save the solids (powdered seeds) please explain what this means from what step in what bit of the extraction exactly from what solution is it coming from and how exactly I'm not stupid but ??? Or was naphtha men't to be IPA or acetone ????


Step 5
add pure IPA or acetone for powder, everclear or vodka for liquid. Let it stand for 30

Where do I and what do I add this to and when does it mean
after doing what do I do this
After washing with naphtha and keeping solids discard naphtha same with acetone or IPA then with acetone or IPA but keep it this time for evaporation or
Add naphtha then IPA or acetone take off IPA or acetone keep that then discard naphtha save solids then add IPA or acetone again to the solids and wash 2-3 times keep for evaporation again or were the last IPA acetone pulls washes??? Washes and mint for discarding or kept for evap with this set of pulls washes?? Please explain if you see where I am confused
min.
pull 2-3x

Step 6

Take your solvent off

Step 7

Evap totaly for powder, and evap until solids form from the liquid

Do not let it evap on a heatsource it WIL distroy the LSA!

This is an extraction made very simple and you will have no nausea.

Dosage

If u have 250 seeds and made the LSA powder you should divide it by 9 (250/9=27.77)
so you wil have to devide your total yield of powder by 27.77 and you will have a dose of 9 seeds

Link https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/PanoraMIX_HBWR_Extract
 
Aum_Shanti
#2 Posted : 6/8/2019 4:31:46 PM
It's basically a typical non-polar/polar extraction tek, nothing wild.

BigJungleBuds wrote:

Quote:
Step 2
Do a naptha wash, so add napta until 5cm above the seeds.


So discard the naphtha and keep the solids??? Here or add the IPA or acetone to the naphtha and pull off the IPA or acetone and keep to evap I don't get this please explain


In every wash, you add the naphtha, shake, let it soak a little, and the strain off the naphtha again.
Quote:

Quote:
Step 3
Repeat step 2 [4x] (for votka and everclear), [10x] (for acetone and IPA)


So with acetone or IPA even though stronger than votka and everclear either wash after washed with naphtha then discarded and with solids wash with IPA and acetone like naphtha but keep the IPA or acetone for evaporation


You do these above naphtha washes several times. As acetone and IPA are better solvents and will also dissolve some unwanted stuff, you do more of the naphtha washes to get them out, before extracting with IPA or acetone, or...

I would just say, do as many naphtha washes as needed (until the naphtha evaporates without any residue).


Quote:
Quote:
Step 4
Discard the naptha save the solids (powdered seeds)
please explain what this means from what step in what bit of the extraction exactly from what solution is it coming from and how exactly I'm not stupid but ??? Or was naphtha men't to be IPA or acetone ????


After the last straining of the naptha, let the remaining seeds mush dry off, and continue with it, all the naphtha you used for washing can be discarded (don't just let it go down then drain!)


Quote:
Step 5
Quote:
add pure IPA or acetone for powder, everclear or vodka for liquid. Let it stand for 30
pull 2-3x


Where do I and what do I add this to and when does it mean
after doing what do I do this


Now you add the IPA or acetone to the dried seed mush coming from your naphtha wash, and let it soak for some time, to dissolve the ergolines in it.

Then strain and repeat a few times more, to get all the ergolines out. Keep the strained IPA or acetone.

If you want a simple on-the-fly non-polar/polar extraction tek, which is for immediate use, then I can recommend this tek:

A non-polar/polar extraction tek, not needing any special solvents

The whole preparation takes less than an hour time, only using food grade household "solvents":

Grinding:
Grind the seeds to a fine powder, either with a coffee grinder or a high speed mixer (only use in short intervals, to not heat it up too much), or pestle the seeds into a fine mush.
Non-Polar Wash:
Soak the seeds in vegetable oil (e.g. canola) for a few minutes. Strain the oil and repeat with new oil. Do this at least about 3 times. The last time, you may soak a bit longer. To increase efficiency you may heat the oil to about 40-50C.
Polar Extraction:
Get some cold distilled (or just bottled) water. Add the water to the seeds and some foodgrade unproblematic acid (e.g. lemon juice), and shake at least every minute. After 5-10Mins you can strain and drink the water.



Remarks:

* Some remaining oil will float on top of the water, and so you can gather and discard it. This is easiest, if you put the water in the freezer for a short time, as this will solidify the floating oil, but not yet the water.

* If you use a high speed mixer, you can do all in the mixer. E.g. throw the oil and the seeds into the mixer, grind the seeds smaller, strain the oil, add again some oil, and switch the mixer on again, etc. The mixer makes the soaking extremely efficient. Just make sure, that the water doesn't get heated up too much from the mixer. I always add some ice cubes (from distilled water) for this. The high-speed mixer has the additional advantage that it heats the oil, making the non-polar washes more efficient. But only let it get lukewarm, not hot!

* The LSH will decompose over time in the water, so drink ASAP (btw the added acid to the water will make the LSH much more stable, that's why you add the acid).


I claim not that this is the truth. As this is just what got manifested into my mind at the current position in time on this physical plane. So please feel not offended by anything I say.
 
BigJungleBuds
#3 Posted : 6/8/2019 9:00:03 PM
[quote=Aum_Shanti]It's basically a typical non-polar/polar extraction tek, nothing wild.

[quote=BigJungleBuds]
Quote:
Step 2
Do a naptha wash, so add napta until 5cm above the seeds.


In every wash, you add the naphtha, shake, let it soak a little, and the strain off the naphtha again.
Quote:


Thanks I get it now


Quote:
Step 3
Repeat step 2 [4x] (for votka and everclear), [10x] (for acetone and IPA)


You do these above naphtha washes several times. As acetone and IPA are better solvents and will also dissolve some unwanted stuff, you do more of the naphtha washes to get them out, before extracting with IPA or acetone, or...

I would just say, do as many naphtha washes as needed (until the naphtha evaporates without any residue).


Quote:
Quote:
Step 4
Discard the naptha save the solids (powdered seeds)


After the last straining of the naptha, let the remaining seeds mush dry off, and continue with it, all the naphtha you used for washing can be discarded (don't just let it go down then drain!)


[quote]Step 5
[quote] add pure IPA or acetone for powder, everclear or vodka for liquid. Let it stand for 30
pull 2-3x


Now you add the IPA or acetone to the dried seed mush coming from your naphtha wash, and let it soak for some time, to dissolve the ergolines in it.

Then strain and repeat a few times more, to get all the ergolines out. Keep the strained IPA or acetone.

Thanks for the steps I now understand it all I have acetone ipa pet ether and heptane what would be best ??

If you want a simple on-the-fly non-polar/polar extraction tek, which is for immediate use, then I can recommend this tek:

Can I do this teak with solvents I have listed above?? As don't like ingesting the seeds but thanks if I can variants it is still useful if you can let me know weater I can use solvents above or is that the same thing I suppose sorry lo. And any suggestions with essential oils aldehydes reactions with lsa to get lsh lsc ilsh ilsc etc ect recipes for with the extract
That I don't mind ingesting as no nausea just the seeds unless U can just simply grind seeds and defat then I can put a variation on this I suppose is the rainbow drink or similar?? Thanks anyway very helpful I know its simple but just unclear I think
A non-polar/polar extraction tek, not needing any special solvents

The whole preparation takes less than an hour time, only using food grade household "solvents":

Grinding:
Grind the seeds to a fine powder, either with a coffee grinder or a high speed mixer (only use in short intervals, to not heat it up too much), or pestle the seeds into a fine mush.
Non-Polar Wash:
Soak the seeds in vegetable oil (e.g. canola) for a few minutes. Strain the oil and repeat with new oil. Do this at least about 3 times. The last time, you may soak a bit longer. To increase efficiency you may heat the oil to about 40-50C.
Polar Extraction:
Get some cold distilled (or just bottled) water. Add the water to the seeds and some foodgrade unproblematic acid (e.g. lemon juice), and shake at least every minute. After 5-10Mins you can strain and drink the water.



Remarks:

* Some remaining oil will float on top of the water, and so you can gather and discard it. This is easiest, if you put the water in the freezer for a short time, as this will solidify the floating oil, but not yet the water.

* If you use a high speed mixer, you can do all in the mixer. E.g. throw the oil and the seeds into the mixer, grind the seeds smaller, strain the oil, add again some oil, and switch the mixer on again, etc. The mixer makes the soaking extremely efficient. Just make sure, that the water doesn't get heated up too much from the mixer. I always add some ice cubes (from distilled water) for this. The high-speed mixer has the additional advantage that it heats the oil, making the non-polar washes more efficient. But only let it get lukewarm, not hot!

* The LSH will decompose over time in the water, so drink ASAP (btw the added acid to the water will make the LSH much more stable, that's why you add the acid).



 
 
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