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Lotus Petals
#1 Posted : 1/4/2014 3:09:13 AM
Pictured are razors with goo from pulls 1,2, and 3. The darker one is from just now and is still wet. I used 50g of ACRB, and Cyb's tek. Is this enough for four people?
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Lotus Petals
#2 Posted : 1/4/2014 4:04:20 AM
I should rephrase the question:

Is this a normal yield?

Is jim jam dosing the same as crystal dosing?
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Continuum
#3 Posted : 1/4/2014 3:43:05 PM
It's hard to tell how much you have if you don't weigh it. Acacia confusa has been known to have up to 3% alkaloids, though I've yielded closer to 1% each time. A milligram (0.001 places) scale is ideal, but a hundreths scale will get you close (0.01 places) and is only about $15 at any head shop. The scale should have a tare function that allow you to zero it out with something already on it, so you'd zero it out with a clean razor on it an then weigh each of the ones with your goo for the product weight.

I can't speak to the jimjam question as I've only smoked acacia extracts. I don't think what you have would be considered jimjam though if you pulled with naptha as it's still selective to the DMT and NMT. I know it looks a mess, but some solvents pull a broader range of alkaloids and that would be jimjam. Someone chime in if this isn't correct, please.
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Entheogenerator
#4 Posted : 1/4/2014 10:15:34 PM
As Continuum said, it's hard to tell how much you have if you don't weight it. That being said, that looks like a pretty small yield. Did you freeze-precip or evaporate?
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primordium
#5 Posted : 1/4/2014 10:55:24 PM
Weigh a clean razor and then compare the differences.

That looks like maybe 2-4 doses in the 50mg range.

I would just be cautious about how you smoalk it. Consider changa.
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Lotus Petals
#6 Posted : 1/5/2014 3:57:46 AM
Continuum wrote:


I can't speak to the jimjam question as I've only smoked acacia extracts. I don't think what you have would be considered jimjam though if you pulled with naptha as it's still selective to the DMT and NMT.


Oh, my bad. I thought jimjam was any goo. Just looked it up again.
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Lotus Petals
#7 Posted : 1/5/2014 3:59:07 AM
Well, I just tried to weigh it and my scale doesn't do what I thought it would do (which was the purpose of buying it). Oh well. I'll just have to try it and see what happens.

Thanks guys!
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Du57mi73
#8 Posted : 1/5/2014 4:33:24 AM
i dont think weighing a clean razor and then weighing one of those is going to be accurate in the mg range because razors can weigh quite a bit different in the mg range.
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#9 Posted : 1/5/2014 11:35:53 AM
Lotus Petals wrote:
Well, I just tried to weigh it and my scale doesn't do what I thought it would do (which was the purpose of buying it). Oh well. I'll just have to try it and see what happens.

Thanks guys!

What do you mean it doesn't do what you thought it would do? Does it weigh to 0.001 g?

I would recommend you start with a pretty small amount of that stuff... Gooey extracts can be pretty dense.
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primordium
#10 Posted : 1/5/2014 7:37:01 PM
Du57mi73 wrote:
i dont think weighing a clean razor and then weighing one of those is going to be accurate in the mg range because razors can weigh quite a bit different in the mg range.


Great point. I had not considered the possibility of variable weights. I suppose I trusted the mass manufacturing process to have a fairly uniform outcome.

I would, personally, still weigh out 2-3 clean ones for comparison and if there were no significant differences, I would trust it.
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Du57mi73
#11 Posted : 1/5/2014 8:57:30 PM
primordium wrote:
Du57mi73 wrote:
i dont think weighing a clean razor and then weighing one of those is going to be accurate in the mg range because razors can weigh quite a bit different in the mg range.


Great point. I had not considered the possibility of variable weights. I suppose I trusted the mass manufacturing process to have a fairly uniform outcome.

I would, personally, still weigh out 2-3 clean ones for comparison and if there were no significant differences, I would trust it.


Not only that but you could use the weigh difference as a general assumption as to how much you got but not to use for specific doses.
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Lotus Petals
#12 Posted : 1/5/2014 10:44:09 PM
Entheogenerator wrote:
Lotus Petals wrote:
Well, I just tried to weigh it and my scale doesn't do what I thought it would do (which was the purpose of buying it). Oh well. I'll just have to try it and see what happens.

Thanks guys!

What do you mean it doesn't do what you thought it would do? Does it weigh to 0.001 g?

I would recommend you start with a pretty small amount of that stuff... Gooey extracts can be pretty dense.


It weighs 0.001 lb. Not 0.001 grams. Oops. Bonehead mistake.
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Lotus Petals
#13 Posted : 1/5/2014 10:46:06 PM
Entheogenerator wrote:
As Continuum said, it's hard to tell how much you have if you don't weight it. That being said, that looks like a pretty small yield. Did you freeze-precip or evaporate?

Both.
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Entheogenerator
#14 Posted : 1/6/2014 7:21:59 AM
Lotus Petals wrote:
Both.

I'm not sure I follow. I assume you mean that you reduced the naphtha in order to concentrate it before freeze-precipitating?
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Lotus Petals
#15 Posted : 1/20/2014 1:41:30 AM
Oh, I'm sorry. What I meant was, the first two pulls I froze and then poured off the liquid. The third and final time I left it out on top of the fridge for a few days to evaporate, then I took a hairdryer to it.
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