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Sympatico
#1 Posted : 7/26/2013 9:56:37 PM
So, it's been a while since i actually wrote anything on these forums under other names but the time has come for me to start being part of this community.
I can aquire 99% pure DMT that has been extracted from MHRB using a STB TEK, however it is pricey.

I have done many extractions of my own but i've only done A/B extractions, how is it that someone can do a STB and get such a pure product at the end what further steps must they have taken to purify to that degree?

I know this site well and have read many Teks on extracting DMT, but it really does amaze me that someone can extract DMT and get it 99% pure using a STB tek.

Any help or links to purifying procedures would be greatly appreciated.
I'm thinking perhaps my lab just isn't up to the job of making something this pure, but that's where i want to get to.



 
a1pha
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#2 Posted : 7/26/2013 10:04:18 PM
Sympatico wrote:
I can aquire 99% pure DMT that has been extracted from MHRB using a STB TEK, however it is pricey.

No discussion on selling, buying, sourcing, acquiring, pricing, trading or smuggling of drugs

Sympatico wrote:
Any help or links to purifying procedures would be greatly appreciated.

How does one recrystallize?
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -A.Huxley
 
endlessness
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#3 Posted : 7/26/2013 10:05:19 PM
Welcome to the forum

Please check out the attitude section, because you just broke one of our most important rules

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ng_or_smuggling_of_drugs

Please read that very carefully!

"99% pure dmt" tested how? What instrument, technique? Got mass spectra to show?

Yes you can get 99% pure DMT with STB, just recrystallize it several times, but you wont know it is 99% unless you have access to the right instrument and knows how to use it.

Anyways, significant part of those 'impurities' can be other alkaloids which could even be interesting in the mix. What is the reason for purifying? Check this thread also: https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._my_spice_ok_to_smoke.3F
 
Sympatico
#4 Posted : 7/26/2013 10:21:48 PM
Thank you for you're replies, sorry i really didn't mean to break any rules.
I have read through that, and in hindsight i should have worded it differently and not mentioned that i could acquire it.

But yes It has been tested at that purity, i guess my interest is based on the experience i had off this 99% pure DMT, I've had many DMT experiences and i appreciate all the other alkaloids that come along with the spice, but the clarity when i vaped this pure DMT was something unique that i would love to explore more


Again sorry, and thank you for the heads up about rules.

with love
Sympatico
 
Macre
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#5 Posted : 7/26/2013 10:37:09 PM
Please may I ask, how exactly has this been tested? As endlessness stated, making such a claim really needs to be backed up by analysis data.

I am glad you have read the Attitude page and you have realised that there is a certain way you should conduct yourself within the forum. This is not an elitist thing; it is because first and foremost, we do not want the owner of the site to get in any trouble because he is a very cool guy and we would never want him or the site to suffer.

Secondly, most of us here treat these substances with a huge respect, regardless of our beliefs. Some of us are spiritual, some of us are pragmatic, but what we all have in common is that we are respectful about the plants and molecules therein.

Welcome back, I hope you can learn from the site.

Peace

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benzyme
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#6 Posted : 7/26/2013 10:38:07 PM
where's the chromatogram to support your claim?
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Sympatico
#7 Posted : 7/26/2013 11:05:39 PM
I don't have any evidence to support my claim that it is in fact that pure, all i know is that the person who extracted claimed to have done analytical lab tests on it and had results of 99% purity or above on multiple occasions.
I guess i'm taking it on faith that what i vaped was in fact that pure and that the chemist who extracted it is indeed legit.
All i can say is i've never come across something this pure from an extraction until this. Pure white crystals and the clearest and most defined DMT experience of my life.
I'm sure if one was to keep re crystallizing and purifying then one could achieve this kind of purity repeatedly.
 
The Traveler
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#8 Posted : 7/26/2013 11:31:02 PM
Check this:



And this:



Totally white and self extracted DMT, and I'm sure that it will contain a certain percentage NMT making it less than 99% pure.

So what I'm trying to tell is that color alone will not say that much about purity. Also since DMT is such a strong hallucinogen any idea you might have about purity can easily cause as placebo effect while smoking it.


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
Infectedstyle
#9 Posted : 7/26/2013 11:58:10 PM
The Traveler wrote:
So what I'm trying to tell is that color alone will not say that much about purity. Also since DMT is such a strong hallucinogen any idea you might have about purity can easily cause as placebo effect while smoking it.


Kind regards,

The Traveler


Yea right! I bet you are just trying to make us jealous with your snow-white crystals there Very happy
 
h1gg1n5
#10 Posted : 7/27/2013 12:04:18 AM
Infectedstyle wrote:
The Traveler wrote:
So what I'm trying to tell is that color alone will not say that much about purity. Also since DMT is such a strong hallucinogen any idea you might have about purity can easily cause as placebo effect while smoking it.


Kind regards,

The Traveler


Yea right! I bet you are just trying to make us jealous with your snow-white crystals there Very happy


Well it sure worked on me if that's what he was going for. Big grin
 
benzyme
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#11 Posted : 7/27/2013 1:09:13 AM
Sympatico wrote:
I'm sure if one was to keep re crystallizing and purifying then one could achieve this kind of purity repeatedly.


that's a quantitative determination, which you don't know, unless you run chromatography on it.
recrystallization isn't necessarily a separation process. As Traveler pointed out, NMT may also be present.
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
 
antrocles
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#12 Posted : 7/27/2013 2:01:04 AM
not to derail...but....OH MY GOD TRAV!!! THAT IS A GORGEOUS EXTRACTION!!

now back to the OP- my dear brother it is true what they say- that purity is in the eye of the chromatographer... Pleased

L&G!
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Sympatico
#13 Posted : 7/27/2013 2:26:55 AM
They are some beautiful pictures, thank you
 
Parshvik Chintan
#14 Posted : 7/27/2013 4:09:43 AM
i am of the strong opinion that purity is entirely overrated.
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Infectedstyle
#15 Posted : 7/27/2013 10:01:53 AM
but how do we get such a pure mix of DMT/NMT repeatedly?
 
changalvia
#16 Posted : 7/27/2013 10:13:49 AM
personally I'm itching to prep some ACRB and try out the N/Dmt combo
With every great plan comes the pleasure of patience. Take a rest, and grab a suckle off the teat of life!
 
benzyme
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#17 Posted : 7/27/2013 4:58:49 PM
Infectedstyle wrote:
but how do we get such a pure mix of DMT/NMT repeatedly?

because single solvent systems are not selective
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"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
 
Infectedstyle
#18 Posted : 7/27/2013 6:08:35 PM
Aye, a single solvent makes it hard to seperate DMT from other alkaloids. I'm sure.

But is there a method for getting white crystals repeatedly? I guess i was asking something different than OP. I'm basically wondering what method/tek results in the purest of DMT (An STB tek or A/B tek). Trace amounts of NMT is not a problem for me, at all. (altho, it would be interesting to seperate the two and experience each one by itself)

recrystallization is fine i guess. i don't need an answer to my question. Normally i don't bother recrystallizing but the smoke is harsh on my lungs and my gvg is getting dirty.
 
 
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