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scorp130n
#1 Posted : 6/4/2013 3:04:59 PM
Other than being harsh on the lungs, either changa or fb. My knowledge doesn't consist of much of anthing else, on the topic of being harmful to your body.
Psychologically I imagine DMT could be dangerous if the wrong individual smoked it. It's certainly not a party drug, and it's for those willing to accept what's to come.

But do you know of any other potential harmful side effects/lethal doses of DMT?


I do believe, there is no possible lethal dose..unless injected or drank?
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3rdI
#2 Posted : 6/4/2013 3:30:16 PM
it shouldn't be harsh on the lungs, if it is you either have contaminated product or you're burning it.

INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

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scorp130n
#3 Posted : 6/4/2013 3:55:12 PM
3rdI wrote:
it shouldn't be harsh on the lungs, if it is you either have contaminated product or you're burning it.



Smoke->Lungs = Bad (changa) So, it's "More harmful than breathing regular air"

Vapor->Lungs = Still not Good, so probably bad.
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3rdI
#4 Posted : 6/4/2013 4:05:40 PM
im not saying its good for you, im saying it shouldn't be harsh to vape.
INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

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TOXSIN
#5 Posted : 6/4/2013 5:21:37 PM
The only damage other than what you already mentioned is "contamination possibility", so make damn sure its clean, or you trust your source if not extracting on your own. Other than that of course with any drug especially psychedelics there's a chance for psychotic breaks increasing in possibility with any current mental illness/history of.
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 
SKA
#6 Posted : 6/4/2013 5:44:19 PM
scorp130n wrote:
3rdI wrote:
it shouldn't be harsh on the lungs, if it is you either have contaminated product or you're burning it.



Smoke->Lungs = Bad (changa) So, it's "More harmful than breathing regular air"

Vapor->Lungs = Still not Good, so probably bad.


What's that supposed to mean? Wut?

Smoke isn't good because it contains Carbon-vapors and fine particles that coat the lungs, reducing the surface area that's able to absorb oxygen from air. Besides, the smoke from many burnt plants often contain toxins & carcinogens. Tobacco smoke contains: Benzene, Nitrosamines, Formaldehyde & Hydrogencyanide. This is what makes Tobacco smoke so bad for the health. Cannabis smoke contains many similair toxins & carcinogens. Any kind of smoke
will contain these harmfull substances to some degree.

Inhaling vapors isn't good or bad per se: It depends on what vapors you're inhaling.
Some vapors, like Cyanide or mercury-vapors are amazingly toxic, while other vapors,
like DMT or THC-vapors aren't harmfull at all. (Given they are sufficiently pure)


Sofar there is no known physical damage from vaporised DMT. Pure DMT vapors should get fully
absorbed by the lungs into the bloodstream.

 
scorp130n
#7 Posted : 6/4/2013 5:45:40 PM
TOXSIN wrote:
The only damage other than what you already mentioned is "contamination possibility", so make damn sure its clean, or you trust your source if not extracting on your own. Other than that of course with any drug especially psychedelics there's a chance for psychotic breaks increasing in possibility with any current mental illness/history of.


That being said, do you know of DMT Inducing such mental illness's? Or is this usually a prior existing condition that just ends up being exacerbated.
You are the architect of your own Destruction.
 
TOXSIN
#8 Posted : 6/4/2013 6:34:22 PM
If you consider a potentially new outlook on life a psychological disorder then yes, I know plenty that experienced that many people come out of the experience crying, thanking me for the experience. I've given samples to people with preexisting potential for certain disorders like possible bi-polar, depression on occasion, anxiety, including myself for the anxiety, with no long term adverse reactions unlike with DXM (I know its not a true hallucinogen) and Salvia which have both made me reconsider my drug use after some experiences DMT left me once in a state where I needed a couple days to integrate but even after a difficult experience I never found it to cause a "bad trip" just very difficult ones, but I consider anything with a lesson as a good trip, regardless of how difficult.
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 
TOXSIN
#9 Posted : 6/4/2013 6:40:15 PM
With the above being said keep in mind if you were to choose an oral route to administer with an MAOI this could also increase potential psychotic break risk as its a different experience with a different intensity, and longer lasting, and I had a friend once who lied to me about drinking alcohol within last 24 hours prior to experience and he was the only one who had an initially rough trip off oral, was fine with smoked, but oral made him puke after his night of drinking harder then aya/pharma would normally, and he regretted lying to me, in the long run he was fine but as his trip sitter it was obvious he was having an initial hard time, and then only later did it become better for him so definitely be careful with what you mix, and follow MAOI diet even though some say syrian rue and the like is less likely to cause interactions, still it's advisable to be careful I will always be safe 24 hours prior and post experience to ensure the cleanest experience possible.
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 
SKA
#10 Posted : 6/4/2013 8:37:39 PM
TOXSIN wrote:
With the above being said keep in mind if you were to choose an oral route to administer with an MAOI this could also increase potential psychotic break risk as its a different experience with a different intensity, and longer lasting, and I had a friend once who lied to me about drinking alcohol within last 24 hours prior to experience and he was the only one who had an initially rough trip off oral, was fine with smoked, but oral made him puke after his night of drinking harder then aya/pharma would normally, and he regretted lying to me, in the long run he was fine but as his trip sitter it was obvious he was having an initial hard time, and then only later did it become better for him so definitely be careful with what you mix, and follow MAOI diet even though some say syrian rue and the like is less likely to cause interactions, still it's advisable to be careful I will always be safe 24 hours prior and post experience to ensure the cleanest experience possible.


I guess those are the risks of MAOIs, but this topic asks about the risks of DMT.
DMT & Ayahuasca are indeed very diferent, chemically & experientially.
I only had 1 Ayahuasca experience with Santo Daime once, but I must honoustly say I
feel that where my DMT smoalking sessions were wildly visual & deeply therapeutical,
I found the Ayahuasca experience alot more shallow. It went deep and was therapeutic for
sure, but I much prefer smoalking DMT: For I do not like the risks MAOIs pose & thusfar I
have found smoalking DMT takes me much deeper into understanding the workings of my consciousness than Ayahuasca did. But I'm guessing the Ayahuasca tea offered to me by Santo Daime was strained from P.Viridis leaves with only a low DMT content(Judging from the almost complete absence of open & closed eyed visions)
 
The Traveler
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#11 Posted : 6/4/2013 10:07:32 PM
Check that link that is on top of each forum page.

Something with Health and Safety...


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
olympus mon
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#12 Posted : 6/5/2013 9:27:31 AM
Ska- S.Daime aren't known for strong ayahuasca. From my 2 friends that are in the church but have also drank with me in Peru say its a whole different thing. They brew their aya caapi heavy and light on the dmt so they can sing there songs and dance ext.Confused Not sure why you'd want to do that after drinking ayahuasca but to each their own.

Your not doing any dancing or singing of a good solid dose of ayahuasca. Very happy
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scorp130n
#13 Posted : 6/5/2013 12:32:10 PM
The Traveler wrote:
Check that link that is on top of each forum page.

Something with Health and Safety...


Kind regards,

The Traveler


Appreciated.
Overlooking the obvious is always a quick embarrassment.

Though personal experiences are always helpful too (: So I guess this thread still holds purpose.
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universecannon
Moderator | Skills: harmalas, melatonin, trip advice, lucid dreaming
#14 Posted : 6/5/2013 6:35:21 PM
Theres also been plenty of threads on this topic as well, filled with personal thoughts/experiences




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Parshvik Chintan
#15 Posted : 6/5/2013 9:53:01 PM
if you smoke DMT, your brain will melt and drip down your spine, and when you crack your back you will think you are a glass of orange juice, when someone knocks you over you will jump out of a third story window thinking you can fly (because you can). also if you smoke DMT more than 7 times, you are legally insane (because it burns holes in your [sane] brain); you can also expect to have severe flashbacks, because DMT is 10 to 20 times more potent than it was back in the 70's.
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Kerberos
#16 Posted : 6/5/2013 11:57:25 PM
Parshvik Chintan wrote:
you can also expect to have severe flashbacks,


when i looked up "flashback" in the dictionary it said "not you again"Shocked
and when the world stops
you will find me there
waiting to embrace you
 
cyb
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#17 Posted : 6/6/2013 8:03:22 AM
Kerberos wrote:
when I looked up "flashback" in the dictionary it said "not you again"Shocked


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