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floatei
#1 Posted : 2/24/2013 4:12:35 AM
Would that aid in any of the following processes at any point. IM a noooob with this so be gentle if that is a dumb question.

- lazymans tek
- into change mix

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nyru40
#2 Posted : 2/24/2013 3:13:06 PM
By moonshine, I take that to be the equivalent of everclear.

And, for the lazyman's tek, I would suspect a no. Ethanol is soluble with water, which defeats the purpose of the STB, which involves basifying rootbark in a water slurry, and pulling with a nonpolar solvent (water is a polar solvent) Thus, naphtha is a much better alternative in this regard. For that to work, you need a solvent that won't dissolve infinitely in water (and vice versa)

Changa, starting from already extracted product, totally! You could use it to dissolve dmt with a minimal amount of fluid, and evaporate it onto the herb of your choice.


As a personal recommendation, check out the DMT-Nexus wiki, noman's tek served me rather well for a simple STB extraction using Mimosa hostilus, and CYB's tek looks to be excellent for Acacia (well, I'm gonna find out soon, using the same principle as that tek soon :3 )
 
Pup Tentacle
#3 Posted : 2/24/2013 3:39:05 PM
Will ethanol dissolve harmalas or the changa? I seem to have read somewhere that methanol does a better job of that. I could be mistaken. methanol is pretty easy and under the radar to obtain.

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floatei
#4 Posted : 2/24/2013 5:07:36 PM
thx nyru40. im gonna check those teks out. I think im just getting overwhelmed by this vast ocean of chemistry lol. But thanks for the clarification.
 
nyru40
#5 Posted : 2/26/2013 11:43:55 PM
I understand your feelings Big grin The chemistry took a fair amount of reading to understand (months! before I even contemplated starting. a fair amount of it is just damn jargon)
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/DMT_Extraction_Overview
Very good overview of extracting, which I recommend combing through. All so called "teks" are going to be based on these principles.
 
floatei
#6 Posted : 5/4/2013 9:00:00 PM
Just to update this and help fellow travelers out. Moonshine works amazing with making changa. Very little bit is needed and it drys in hours with a fan on it.

|Best of luck friends
 
Growmazz
#7 Posted : 5/5/2013 9:01:03 AM
Swim brews up 8 liters of 94-96% ethanol + around 300ml 96% methanol every few weeks using a copper reflux condenser on a 50 lt keg with a few home mods.. My question is what percent/proof shine was used with what tex since swim only use's it for quick and dodgy mj extractions with a heat mat evap and for drinking(cut with Coke and or flavor with distilled water of course) Big grin
 
acacian
#8 Posted : 5/5/2013 9:08:37 AM
moonshine should be very good for making changa... i'm not familair with lazymans tek though moonshine would help draw alkaloids out in the boiling stage of an A/B tek... you could add it to the acidic solution and it would make it far more effecient for pulling out the alkaloids.. or you could jsut soak the material in a mixture of moonshine and a small amount of vinegar for say 24 hrs and see how much it pulls
 
Growmazz
#9 Posted : 5/5/2013 10:27:43 AM
acacian wrote:
moonshine should be very good for making changa... i'm not familair with lazymans tek though moonshine would help draw alkaloids out in the boiling stage of an A/B tek... you could add it to the acidic solution and it would make it far more effecient for pulling out the alkaloids.. or you could jsut soak the material in a mixture of moonshine and a small amount of vinegar for say 24 hrs and see how much it pulls


Thanks heaps for all the help acacian Big grin

with swim's shine 24 hrs may be a little to long when using Acacia phyllodes and twigs for the fact that when swim does dodgy mj extraction's 4 hours is better then 24 before filtration of solids since the strength is the same with half the harshness from the unwanted fat's.

24hrs would get EVERYTHING out of plant solids so swim thinks it would need a defat after soak and strain. Would this be correct??


 
 
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