Report. Type: Changa 1:2 ish maybe closer to 1:1. Passion Flower, Blue Lilly, Mullein Device: Vapor Genie, Bic Lighter Set/Setting: Different 3 times in his room 1 in another room Mood: Calm, peaceful Environment: City sounds with cars Prior usage for friend: tried it all...a few times but nothing within the past year
I just introduced a friend to DMT. He was aware of it, but no more then a normal "try anything" type of person. He was not taking any medications at all, not even aspirin. No surgeries, no vitamins nothing... He only uses MJ and he would be considered a "heavy" user of very high quality MJ. He is about 5'1" 110 lbs, decent shape and eats healthy. I am 5'9" 170 lbs and eat okay. He used a vapor genie and cooked it a few times earlier in the night which lead him to be frustrated after trying about 3 different times spaced within about 2 hours.
Since him and I have never done psychedelics together he was kinda beating around the bush that he mite need to do it alone. So he did...twice... Still no avail.
I had used the spice that he used and got an experience within 3 hits. We then tried again about 45 minuets later but this time I did the lighting of the VG so no more precious spice was destroyed. Set/Setting was great, his house, climate was normal and the room was very dark with a small amount of light behind us. This final attempt was after about 45 minuets of waiting and just relaxing.
He started inhaling, I sparked it for him and with a long draw of about 5 seconds I could see the smoke and smell the spice vaping. On the exhale a good amount of smoke came out. He said it tasted like what the spice smelled like (good sign) so I chanted SMOALK MORE! SMOALK MORE! another hit...more smoke.... He said he could feel something trying to take him away (good sign)!...SMOALK MORE... after 7 HITS! 7 of spice that put me away in 3, no effects were felt. No joy, or body buzz, visuals when eyes were closed...NOTHING. I was blown away. He mentioned that he got the feeling of being pulled away again but that's as far as it got. My question is, is this possible. Is there a way to fight off the spice? Was too much spice misfired on throughout the night?
Thanks for helping. I'm introducing spice to this person because he needs it in his life as we all do when things get confusing.
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Interesting... it is my understanding that dmt metabolizes very quickly, so you want to get the dose in fast, not "sip it" so to speak. But on the same side of that coin, there isn't really a tolerance. So 45 minutes I would imagine would be plenty of time. I've done a low dose followed by a medium dose 5 minutes later and it launched me. The other possibility is that he has a high tolerance for dmt, seems like some people just do, just as some have a very low one as well. But as far as "fighting it off".. man I don't think so, if it's going to hit you, its going to hit you. Bummer. Maybe it just wasn't his day. People on this forum have been "denied" many times despite consistent breakthroughs.... mysterious stuff it is. You can't do anything about yesterday, but you can do everything with tomorrow.
Everything I write on this forum is pure gibberish and fanciful nonsense!
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Thanks for your answer buddy.. I thought it was kinda hard to fight it as well so I'm a little confused. He also told me he had surgery two times and each time he went under he went to the same place, a three sided room with a floor and that was it. I was hoping that dmt mite bring him back and let him see what it was. This is very interesting because a high tolerance after 7 hits should still do something... anything.... once we try again I'll post any results because this is very odd in my eyes.
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No offense but maybe something is fundamentally wrong with him? Spirit, Mind, Body - whatever. Maybe he has a too high amount of whatever chemical helps speed up the metabolization of DMT. So he never goes beyond that threshold dose - ever - because his body breaks it down? I don't know - I am just guessing My threads: Intro - DMT first time - My mushroomsI'm not all that I can be....
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If feasible, use freebase DMT in the VG and a more powerful lighter. Alternatively use a bong for the changa/enhanced leaf you have, and inhale the dose in one go. I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.
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Both have very valid points. As far as Mind/Body/Spirit goes I can only guess as to his status. If I had to guess I would say hes just as normal as most normal people are. But its a good idea.
Freebase will be the next step, after of course more is made. I will have him try the bong with the changa. I was just too worried because there was no "clean" bong for the use that night. But that will be the next step.
Thanks for the help I will update this as soon as more progress is made.
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Is this person on any prescription medications?
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No meds at all. not even asprin. still no second try but soon.
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I've noticed that if I try DMT too quickly after a major dose I get little to no effects whatsoever, I usually have to wait over an hour before I try again. "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here’s Tom with the weather."
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Psychelectric wrote:I've noticed that if I try DMT too quickly after a major dose I get little to no effects whatsoever, I usually have to wait over an hour before I try again. ¿ i am almost positive this is uncommon i know myself and many others can re-dose instantly (but after a proper dose, you shouldn't have to  ) My wind instrument is the bong CHANGA IN THE BONGA! 樹
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