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SWIM made first ext, but has few questions with conflicting answers Options
 
lkjhgfdsa
#1 Posted : 9/25/2012 12:31:38 AM
I did my research, so hopefully these dont seem like dumb questions, but can never be too safe Smile I know people like to not answer long posts, so skim and answer a question or 2 if you must, its better to have some answered, rather then nothing answered before SWIM gets to final process Smile


SWIM am following Nomans Tek but doing some research, I have noticed people doing things a bit different(but ofcourse I try to get my info from others strictly using Nomans tek).

First I want to give a little tip. Separating was a bitch for SWIM, but he quickly found the using a turkey baster, pulling to a glass bowl(its ok to get a little black or brown), then pulling from glass bowl to collection jar made the task a hundred times easier and quicker because then you can use an eye dropper and easily seperate as there is now very small amounts of black in bowl and alot of naphta.

So SWIM has had 4 jars in freezer for around 12 hours. Crystals are forming like crazy in jars 3 and 4 and crystals are white. Jars 1 and 2 did not have crystals. I am thinking because SWIM was too cautious not to mix naphta too much to prevent emulsion and must not have mixed enough. A few hours ago I shook jar 1 and 2 very gently and flipped it. A few crystals are forming but nothing like jars 3 and 4. Did SWIM mess these jars up? Is it really bad to take out of freezer(as the naphta moves around a bit)?

Next question is, Nomans tech says keep in freezer over night, and other people following his tech left for a few days and up to a few weeks. Is SWIM really going to get that many more crystals waiting? or is 24 hours a good amount?

3rd question is, my crystals are pretty white. Does SWIM need to do the coffee filter, or would it be best to dump all naphta in baking dish to evap? Its looking good and I am trying to avoid doing recrystallization if needed.

Last thing is, SWIMs turkey baster must have a a VERY small amount of brown sucked up(not noticably) in the end squeezer part. Very small amounts dripped into collection jar. It caused big dark yellow crystals to form in just very small spots of jars. Crystals are not black, just a little darker yellow(was light brown at first) than what I expected. This is ok right? I know yellow crystals are ok, but is that the same when the rest of the crystals are pure white with a change of yellow where the brown dropped in?


And finally last question. It was very late after SWIM finished jar 4. SWIM had to go to bed. SWIM kept his MHRB mix and is pretty sure he can do this, but thought it would be better to ask. SWIM can still use the mix and fill a few more jars since its been sitting over night? He thinks it will be ok, just maybe pick up more color as the mixture and left over solvents are left overnight breaking plant material aprt further. The mixing jar however, the lid is dumb and not 100% air tight. Should he do a few more jars? Do you think these next few jars would require recrystallization?

Thanks a bunch for any quick answers. You all seem like a great community. Normally I wouldn't recomend swim to take adv from drug addicts from the internet lol but having good understandings how this all works, people really seem to know what they're talking about around here and aren't the stereotypical addicts you hear about on tv.

EDIT: Just noticed I have 2 last questions lol I thought i'd mention it before I get useless posts pointing it out
 
NNDMT
#2 Posted : 9/25/2012 1:08:16 AM
When freeze precipitating i didnt notice any difference of crystals formation by shaking and/or flipping the container. It should be mixed well when pulling naptha from your mixture.

I also noticed most of the crystals fall out withing the first 12 hrs, then depending on how concentrated your naptha is they grow a little bit.

When you ready to collect your crystals, I would pour off naptha through a filter to another wide mouth container for evaporation and scrape off formed crystals from the jar and air dry right on the filter. Avoid having naptha with crystals to warm up they will dissolve back at room temp.
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lkjhgfdsa
#3 Posted : 9/25/2012 1:22:15 AM
Thats exactly what I thought. Makes sense to me but just wondering what most people do. So if im understanding correctly, pour through coffee filter and save those crystals on the filter to dry, and the filtered Naphta will dry and produce more crystals, but since I use the filter, it prevents the already formed crystals from disolving?

Thanks for the quick response btw. SWIM is tryin to hurry, but not rush it. SWIM normally doesnt do drugs, nor make them being a single dad and daughter has no mom. Because of that, I have not much time and need to rid my house from any chemicals or substances before she is back from gradmas. A little more info then I need to mention, but its a good reason for me to be in a hurry for some quick answers. Much appreciated.
 
NNDMT
#4 Posted : 9/25/2012 1:50:29 AM
the filtered naptha if slightly yellow will produce a light orange/brownish residue which you can re-x to purify. For quicker naptha evaporation use a flat glass baking dish or something that will have a very thin layer to evap faster or you can use a fan on low speed slightly above the surface. keep away from flame or sparks highly flammable material and i wouldn't recommend to evap in closed spaces
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lkjhgfdsa
#5 Posted : 9/25/2012 2:40:32 AM
Thank you for that. Another quick question. Jars 3 and 4 have alot of crystals. Not so much the 1st and 2nd extract. Not a whole lot of naphta but I am evaporating half of it anyways to see if I can get more crystals. Would it hurt to do this with the 3rd and 4th jar even though they have alot of big cristals? Alot of crystals are stuck to the glass, but theres a ton just floating around the solution. Or so SWIM says lol
 
lkjhgfdsa
#6 Posted : 9/25/2012 5:24:05 AM
Ok so what SWIM did was pour solution out of jars VERY slowly and the loose crystals bunched together and stuck to the jar. The naphta was very cloudy so just to see what happens, he put it into new jars and back in the freezer just out of curiosity.

The other jars are out in room temp to dry. Is it best for one to scrape out the wet crystals onto a plate? or to let dry in the jar? Also SWIM will be doing 2 more pulls to see what happens after it sat overnight. Each jar he has done something a little bit different as he is simply trying to learn, instead of following a specific tek to get best yeild. Alot of research was done for weeks before first extract and has learned enough to where if he does another extract in the future, he can pull the perfect crystals. Crystals are wet still, so he could be wrong. Surprizingly the yellow crystals disappeared and SWIM has nothing but white crystals that look like wet salt(and large crystals in some spots).
 
 
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