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MHRB ethanol extraction.. Options
 
lorax
#1 Posted : 10/27/2008 9:06:07 AM
to get the dmt in its original salt form.. would it work to just soak some MHRB powder in ethanol for a while, then evaporate the alcohol and pull on the resulting extract with naphtha? or will the salt form of dmt not be soluble in naphtha?

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69ron
#2 Posted : 10/27/2008 11:43:33 AM
cheech wrote:
to get the dmt in its original salt form.. would it work to just soak some MHRB powder in ethanol for a while, then evaporate the alcohol and pull on the resulting extract with naphtha? or will the salt form of dmt not be soluble in naphtha?


You have a couple of problems here. The first might not be an actual problem. It depends. Some salts are not soluble in pure ethanol, but some are. We do know that the DMT salt in MHRB is practucally insoluble in acetone, and completely insoluble in naphtha. You’re likely dealing with DMT tannate, and I don’t know if that’s soluble in pure ethanol or not. It probably is. It’s often less of a gamble to use wet alcohol that’s 70-90% alcohol with the rest being water. Most alkaloid salts are soluble in wet alcohol.

The other problem is the salt form will definitely not be soluble in naphtha.
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#3 Posted : 10/27/2008 12:02:32 PM
This is pretty interesting and could be further researched. One could extract with pure ethanol, let it evaporate and wash the crude extract with acetone. This could leave fairly pure MHRB alkaloids in their native salted state.

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lorax
#4 Posted : 10/27/2008 2:17:08 PM
what kind of quantity would you recommend for 50g of bark? i'd love to look into more non toxic ways of making MHRB extract. acetone is a pretty cool solvent because it evaporates so fast and clean.
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69ron
#5 Posted : 10/27/2008 9:03:03 PM
Acetone is one of my favorite solvents. It’s safe to consume very small amounts of acetone. Acetone occurs naturally in the human body and is also found in some fruit. It’s not nearly as toxic as NAPHTHA.

For some reason SWIM is very sensitive to naphtha and easily feels ill from its fumes. Same goes for xylene. But SWIM can easily tolerate IPA, acetone, MEK, d-Limonene, heptane, DCM, chloroform, ethyl acetate and a few others.

MEK, acetone, d-Limonene, ethyl acetate, and ethanol are some of the better solvents. All of these solvents occur abundantly in nature and have been consumed in small amounts by human beings for thousands of years. MEK, acetone, and d-Limonene are all found in fruit. Ethyl acetate and ethanol are found in wine.

Heptane is also found in nature, produced by some trees.

Xylene is produced in forest fires.

Methanol is produced by bacteria in nature.

Solvents like naphtha, xylene, DCM, heptane, chloroform, etc., have never been part of the human diet. Our bodies cannot easily handle them. They should be avoided whenever possible
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aliendreamtime
#6 Posted : 6/12/2012 4:26:00 AM
Could you use the - ethanol, evap, wash with acetone - method with harmalas also?
 
 
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