hi, my friend swim was wondering what happpens when you scale the stb extraction up, ( ie upto 20litres of bark solution) and whether it reaches a critical point, where the spice ceases to be efficiently pulled into the solvent? or any other potential problems that may arise due to scale.

your help and input would be greatly appreciated on the matter.

thanks

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The issue is first of all related to having appropriate sized containers and tools. The second thing is, what are you going to do with a large amount of DMT. Please dont sell or give away indiscriminately, and be careful with not calling attention, if you work with bigger amounts, In our attitude you can see why we think it's better to work with more reasonable amounts.

swim was just curious as to whether the tek could be scaled from a purely hypothetical perspective.. in terms of purity and yield will they be affected? swim always had a strict x4 1.5 litre solution in x4 2ltr mason jars, 4 minute gentle roll and 4minute rest repeated 8 times gently heated, now could that be adapted to a 20 or more litre drum that clearly cant be rolled on your lap.. would the solvent contact the entire solution could it be mixed efficiently and gently enough not to emulsify? would de fatting become an issue on that scale? swim is just curious of the scalable limits of the stb method...

I don't know why it wouldn't work fine - emulsions and defats are non issues with STB's and MHRB - but I don't know why you'd want to do it either. The only advantage to STB's is their convenience, which is lost at that scale. An A/B would be much better suited to the quantities that you're talking about.

so you think an a/b similar to lextek for example would be more suited? why is this so?
also if you were to do an a/b like that, would you still be able to run the naphtha through then xylene afterwards to get the jungle out? seeing as your acidifying/simmering then discarding the bark in the first stage, would the full sprectrum be removed by the first acid wash or would there still be jungle alkaloids in there? or would you just run the xylene through the same water+acetate solution that the naphtha went through? ive never tried the acid / base / acid / base route in the lextek before seems like it will come out a lot cleaner this way but also a lot more stages involved.. will this affect yield? i guess not to much if its done properly..

any useful information on these matters is greatly appreciated!