hey all, just recently finished an extraction on 120g Acacia Phlebophylla leaves and was left with a bright yellow goo that was definitely active and had effects that I found hard to decipher from nn.DMT but with much more bodyload. My question is can oxidation occur while the DMT is already in the plant material? Or is it when the DMT freebase is exposed to too much air (such as blowing a fan over the evapping naptha)? The reason I ask is because the Phleb is supposedly one of the purest sources of DMT and I was a little confused about how it ended up as DMT N Oxide...whether it was something I did wrong in the extraction or whether it had already converted. I used dead leaves that I collected - could the dmt in these have oxidised prior to extraction? This is what I am leaning towards as the naptha was already bright yellow before it evaporated. Still pulling more yellow oil without any crystalisation.

My last extraction on the dead leaves I got a creamy whitish yellow wax that formed in snowflake patterns but was not as solid as most crystalline extracts I have seen. The extract was extremely potent and had qualities unique to any DMT I had experienced.. made some really nice changa from it with Acacia Mearnsii phyllodes and shredded cappi vine..

Collecting leaves with dmt in them sounds fun

it is its nice not having to touch the tree either. apparently the leaves retain their potency for months once fallen. It did rain lots last week though which I have been wondering whether it had anything to do with the oxidation

Yes i is possible for the dmt to oxidise while still in the plant

My guess is that you would find trace to minimum amounts of oxidized DMT.

I think the plants natural anti oxidants would greatly slow such a process.

Peace

I remember reading a 69ron thread where he had a batch of chacruna that contained a greater amount of n-oxide than dmt. I never had such a thing happen just throwing it out there. I'm sure the rate varies between different plants.

it certainly seemed already oxidised during the extraction ....noticed an unusually bright yellow colour to the naptha after mixing with the base solution which I hadn't seen before. However a friend who had the other half of the leaves obtained white semi crystaline wax just as I did last time so i'm a bit confused about the cause. I also put a lot more tender love and care into this extract and didn't cut any corners as I have in the past. I am going to try freeze precipitation for a while and see how that goes.. i was initially suss on the temperature not being cold enough but its fine now