After a few successful A/B Mimosa extractions, I decided to attempt a quick STB for comparison using the same naphtha solvent. But, something happened. My first pull came out as expected with a slight yellowish tint. The second and third pulls came out burgundy/reddish, so, I combined the 2nd & 3rd pulls and put them through a dirty wash using nothing but pure vinegar and they still came out looking like a finely aged Bordeaux...WTF!

Unable to clean up the second and third pulls, I put only the first in the freezer and the following day I was left with a surprisingly large amount yellow and orange crystals. I've yet to sample the orange but the yellow was perplexingly potent considering I used the lazy mans STB process and was expecting minimal results. Damn this shizzle is strong.

The orange product resembles jungle spice but I didn't use Hexane/Xylene or any other none-polar solvent I've read about that is supposed to pull a full spectrum, so this is confusing.

I suppose my questions won't be answered until I run another batch from this vendor through my usual A/B tek. But, I'll be honest, I won't lie...I used a lot of lye. The lazyman's tek called for 60g's of lye but I got a lil crazy and dumped in the whole bottle(454g)into a half gallon of distilled water - could this be the reason why I extracted an insane amount of spice from so little mimosa(?) My first thoughts were that I had extracted a lot of fats, but as previously stated, the final product which did not go through a re-x, was incredibly potent. I don't exactly measure anything out because I'm lazy like that, and that's exactly why I thought the Lazy mans extract would be perfect for me With certainty I can say, no more than one and a half cups of mimosa was used and with only freeze precipitating the first pull, I yielded one gram, roughly.

To sum-up, I'm curious if anyone can explain why my second and third pulls came out reddish even though they sat in the stew for the same duration as the first pull.

Thanks in advance,

Serato

Im not sure and please dont take my answer lightly but i think it could very well be the lye. I just did a sunflower oil tek mescaline extraction and i did 3 batches....the first and the third batch i used 100g of product and 100g of lye and the pulls came out white. On my second batch i used 120g lye to 100g of product- my pulls were burgundy/red as well on that batch. I posted a week or so back on this and recieved no response, hopefully someone will come along and be able to explain this, but for now I believe it must be the fact we both used a lot more lye than intended that caused this.

If you use just pure lye then the lye cannot have any effect on the end product. From what I understand is that more lye will break open your material more aggressively and thus exposing more fats too. So you are pulling more fat from the material.

Ya, it's probably the excessive amount of lye used because my digital ph is apparently busted and never gave a reading over 10. The lye was 100% pure but it was new brand and I dunno what I was thinking but something good came out of all this - no nasty plastic taste

Maybe you didn't use enough water in your extraction? Sometimes when people try to cram too much MHRB in their solution, it pulls red stuff.

Reading this thread might help you out. Seems like people get red naphtha from adding the bark into the lye/water too early, before it has cooled down and gone clear. This is only speculation, but I have found that adding the bark after the reaction has cooled down allows for a smooth extraction. I tend not to do STB's anymore due to complications such as this.

Are you saying you had the red naphtha of doom during a mesc extraction? If so, that's the first i've ever heard of it.

sorta... i used sunflower oil and vinegar so it was red vinegar... but the end result came out a tan soo im sure itll be fine...if not im evaping two more batches as we speak .....

How much time between juice and every pull ??

I have learnt that is not necesary to wait to pull, you can do everything in a row. The longer you let stand the juice DMT will oxidize more. It seems to be the too strong amount of OH-. Oxidized DMT get orange-pink.