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StarGazer
#1 Posted : 12/9/2011 12:52:24 AM
Some say a low boil, some say a boil destroys yield. Which temperature do yall have the best results with? And how long should one keep in a crockpot. How long can the acid solution sit without harm? And the basic too? Thank you
 
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#2 Posted : 12/11/2011 11:02:45 AM
i wouldnt boil or simmer it, from what i have gathered a water bath is the way to go.
 
endlessness
#3 Posted : 12/11/2011 12:33:56 PM
both will be fine. Traditionally ayahuasca is boiled for many many hours. The alkaloids we usually deal with here, including dmt and harmalas, are very stable in boiling acqueous acidic solution, so you will be fine.

Is it powdered or shredded? Be sure to powder it as much as possible before boiling. If its too coarsely shredded, even many hours wont be very effective to get all the alkaloids

Do maybe 4 or even 5x boils/simmers on bark. The last ones will probably get very little, but tthis first step will limit everything else later on because you will remove the solids, so if you left any alkaloids behind, you just wont have them no matter how many solvent pulls. Better be a bit excessive at first and have a surer good yield

I do it for around half hour each boil, soft boiling, and then I softly boil to reduce it to manageable amount later.
 
gibran2
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#4 Posted : 12/11/2011 2:42:45 PM
Boil or simmer what?

I assume you’re referring to MHRB? Powdered, shredded, or whole?

If you’re extracting DMT from powdered MHRB, you don’t need to boil at all. Just let the powder steep in hot water (acidified with vinegar) for as long as it takes the powder to settle, decant the liquid, and repeat 3-4 times. Reduce the resultant liquid to a manageable volume with vigorous boiling, basify, and extract with a NP solvent. You’ll get yields as high as you would if you boiled for hours.

Of course, if you’re using coarsely shredded bark, you’d have to boil for a very long time to get all of the DMT out. But with powdered, no boiling is required.
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Psychonaut In Orbit
#5 Posted : 12/11/2011 10:02:07 PM
gibran2 wrote:
Boil or simmer what?

I assume you’re referring to MHRB? Powdered, shredded, or whole?

If you’re extracting DMT from powdered MHRB, you don’t need to boil at all. Just let the powder steep in hot water (acidified with vinegar) for as long as it takes the powder to settle, decant the liquid, and repeat 3-4 times. Reduce the resultant liquid to a manageable volume with vigorous boiling, basify, and extract with a NP solvent. You’ll get yields as high as you would if you boiled for hours.

Of course, if you’re using coarsely shredded bark, you’d have to boil for a very long time to get all of the DMT out. But with powdered, no boiling is required.


Good info friend... I have powdered MHRB so this info is helpful.
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