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humblebee
#1 Posted : 11/9/2011 4:19:25 PM
Hi Nexians!
I haven't posted for a long time, but have been lurking. I finally got up the guts to try to extract. Partially because I have been hearing the call and partially because I can't afford the other methods of obtaining.

Im so psyched I finally did it! I have a bunch of questions, please let me know if I say anything that is bad form, I'll fix it.

I've only done one pull so far. I used the Lazymans tek and some of the crystals on the dish look like dry crystals and some are oily or wet looking. It's been under the fan overnight.

Update Later: Ok so I tried some and it is juuuuust fine. wow. I'm just now reaching baseline. phew.

I still wonder about the oilier looking crystals. I scraped some together and it has an orangish tint, and it's a bit gummy, (just a bit), but apparently it still works. Should I further purify, will it make a difference in the blast off? In my health?

I'm about ready to pour off the naptha of the second try and put under fan, but I read if you wait for it to get cloudy then transfer to jars and freeze overnight, nice crystals form. Then pour off the naptha, (which one can re-use) put crystals under fan on a glass dish, evap and it's ready? Is that any purer or does it make higher yields?

Also read you could turn the jars upside down making the crystals easier to obtain. Does this work?

Thanks for any help.

Upon return from hyperspace-"Wow I have a body with arms and legs and everything!"

btw-It's all true!
 
Spira
#2 Posted : 11/10/2011 5:31:26 AM
humblebee, nice to see you again and congratulations Smile

The orangish tint is fine, there a couple of threads of this orangeish DMT (DMT oxide, jungle spice, 'red' DMT) that you can search for if you're interested.

As for the second pull, I would recommend freezing a tray rather then a jar = more surface area to scrape crystals.

If you tried it and it worked, you're doing it right Pleased
"It made me do it."



I am not real.

 
endlessness
#3 Posted : 11/10/2011 1:03:49 PM
 
humblebee
#4 Posted : 11/12/2011 2:54:26 AM
Thanks guys, and thanks for the informative links Endlessness.
I read and reread all of the extract teks, and all of the FAQ as well as other random posts before ever buying the ingredients, but not until physically doing an extract has it really made sense. I read so many things before getting started that I forgot where exactly to find the answers to questions as they arose from actually doing the extracts.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Thanks for being willing to share your knowledge.

Updated rather than re-posting. RE first time extract:

I did Lazymans tek all the way through 2 pulls and the product was orangish as stated in post above.

I smoked some to see how it was, got a nice trip but my lungs were irritated a lot more than when I smoke the off white spice.

So I followed the instructions Endlessness posted and re crystallized using naptha. The product was light yellow.

3rd pull; Lazyman's Tek with a modification, for 3rd pull I freeze precipitated in 1/2 pint short wide mouth mason jars, for about 12 hours (wide, short jars makes easy to scrape). Got nice snow globes with a light yellow product after scraping and evapping. (aside::I had left the naptha in the mix for over 24 hours and when siphoning off into a large measuring cup noticed it was yellow and cloudy so I didn't evap at all, just put in jars and froze.)

I vaped a little after re xing (re xing=recrystallizing?) and it was so much nicer than the orangey stuff on my lungs; no oily black residue in my pipe.

Pipe: It's what I think is called an oiler pipe, a long bent stem with a bulb at the end which has a hole on top to put spice in. It is heated from underneath. I'm still learning how to use this pipe, I think I need to refine my technique.

Anyway I've learned a lot, for example; I like the lighter colored spice better. I will be much more careful about getting plant material and lye in the naptha. Re crystallizing is good to get impurities out.

I'm going to do 4th pull, I will reuse the naptha from last pull. I was thinking of using the same jars which still have a little spice on them. Is this ok?

Also, I have easy access to mineral spirits and acetone, I'm going to look for posts on these, acetone for purifying and I think I can extract with Mineral spirits, Naptha is not so easily available where I am. Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks for helping.
Upon return from hyperspace-"Wow I have a body with arms and legs and everything!"

btw-It's all true!
 
 
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