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cyberdream
#1 Posted : 5/16/2011 10:42:50 AM
im the final step , i separated the naptha , can i evap it with a fan ? or put it in Freezer?
 
cero
#2 Posted : 5/16/2011 10:44:56 AM
1. freezer for 24 hours
2. take out of freezer
3. ????
4. Profit!
 
BathtubSkyPirate
#3 Posted : 5/16/2011 10:45:43 AM
You can do both. My preference is to put it in the freezer.
 
cyberdream
#4 Posted : 5/16/2011 10:48:13 AM
Btw i left the naptha in the mixing jar for about 1 hour with 3 times stirring , is that enough?
 
cero
#5 Posted : 5/16/2011 10:49:38 AM
It should be enough. You can leave the last pull in the jar for much longer to get all the goodies out, but those first pulls are good to go in an hour.
 
cyberdream
#6 Posted : 5/16/2011 10:54:07 AM
ok thanks , but this is how it looks like http://imageshack.us/m/707/2586/16052011395.jpg its normal?
 
ewok
#7 Posted : 5/16/2011 11:38:12 AM
cero wrote:
1. freezer for 24 hours
2. take out of freezer
3. ????
4. Profit!

Profit??
Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
Red and yellow then came to be,
reaching out to me, lets me see.
There is so much more and it beckons me to look though to these,
infinite possibilities.
As below so above and beyond I imagine,
drawn outside the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.
 
Enoon
Moderator | Skills: Harm reduction, Analytical thinking
#8 Posted : 5/16/2011 11:46:44 AM
looks normal cyberdream.
Personally I like keeping my naphtha in the mixing jar for a lot longer than 1 hour, but maybe that's cause I don't like to hasten things. I usually do 12-24 hour pulls, shaking/rolling my jar whenever I pass. Not sure if stirring will do. Now it looks like you have quite a large volume of naphtha so it could be that it is not saturated enough to freeze precipitate anything. If after 24 hours in the freezer you get nothing you can do a few things:

1) evaporate some of it and freeze again (usually ppl wait till the naphtha starts clouding when you blow over it - that's when you know it's super saturated)
2) evaporate all of it
3) split it up and try to pull with each half again this time for longer and with more agitation to get it saturated enough.

hopefully though you won't have this problem.

anyway, good luck.

@ ewok - I'm sure he meant spiritual profit Very happy

Buon viso a cattivo gioco!
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The Open Hyperspace Traveler Handbook - A handbook for the safe and responsible use of entheogens.
---
mushroom-grow-help ::: energy conserving caapi extraction
 
ewok
#9 Posted : 5/16/2011 12:03:49 PM
With the ???? as step 3 I wasn't so sure. Took it as sell then profit. But I hope its innocent.
Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
Red and yellow then came to be,
reaching out to me, lets me see.
There is so much more and it beckons me to look though to these,
infinite possibilities.
As below so above and beyond I imagine,
drawn outside the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.
 
Enoon
Moderator | Skills: Harm reduction, Analytical thinking
#10 Posted : 5/16/2011 12:10:57 PM
nah there's a step missing - something like

3. decant naphtha, put jar upside down, dry crystals...
3.5 vaporize
4. [spiritual] profit Very happy
Buon viso a cattivo gioco!
---
The Open Hyperspace Traveler Handbook - A handbook for the safe and responsible use of entheogens.
---
mushroom-grow-help ::: energy conserving caapi extraction
 
ewok
#11 Posted : 5/16/2011 12:16:21 PM
Enoon wrote:
nah there's a step missing - something like

3. decant naphtha, put jar upside down, dry crystals...
3.5 vaporize
4. [spiritual] profit Very happy

Sounds much better that way. I'm all for profit then.
Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
Red and yellow then came to be,
reaching out to me, lets me see.
There is so much more and it beckons me to look though to these,
infinite possibilities.
As below so above and beyond I imagine,
drawn outside the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.
 
cero
#12 Posted : 5/16/2011 12:16:28 PM
The ??? en profit! was a joke. I might be spending too much time on the internet, lol.
 
crystalizer
#13 Posted : 5/16/2011 2:05:38 PM
Yep, i agree with the try of freezing but disagree with the 24h rule. When someone did his last extraction, he did a lot of pulls with different sdolvents (by the way, n-hexane gives the pure white crystalls, never tried heptane Pleased ). He placed them in the freezer (-20°C) and after 24h there were only very tiny chrystalls, not worth to harvest them. So he placed them back into the freezer for ... mh lets say a week, and tadaa... even with large excess of solvent, chrystalls, which are really heavy in terms of weight formed. The more solvent is there, the longer the precitipation takes, but the purer the product... as impurities will usually remain in the solvent....

Wait for couple of days and you will see chrystall formation (most likely)...
And if not, yeah you can evap off some solvent. The guy I know uses cold airflof, works great, works that good that when he evaps completely, and adds a little warm n-hexane ... the chrystalls even percitipate at room temperature.

And one last thing... I think that soaks with solvent for more than 1 h are more then enough. The solubility of DMT in the used solvent isn't that great, so that basically after 5-10 minutes of stirring (yeah, the guy i knopw uses a magnetic stirrer) saturates the solvent... A littel temperature in this step helps even more, when you melt your product the solvents even better soak out the DMT Pleased

enjoy!
"It is not the strongest species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change."
-NOT Darwin
 
Skeet
#14 Posted : 5/17/2011 8:40:07 PM
cero wrote:
The ??? en profit! was a joke. I might be spending too much time on the internet, lol.


I got it man, and laughed hard.
 
 
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