Greetings all. I just joined but am not new to psychedelics. I am hoping to get advice from more experienced folks here than I believe is available elsewhere. Ive used marijuana for 5 years, once a week. I have tried mushrooms once (weak), salvia probably 20 times (20x), mescaline (strong) (from IPA extractions of San Pedro, and boiled tea) maybe ten times, 2ce twice, and an attempt or two at LSA (hbwr seeds) and blue lily. I have worked with Ayahuasca 3 times, and was successful in getting it to work all the way once. I have tried A/B extractions with San Pedro (failures) a couple of times, and have attempted a failed STB extraction of MHRB powdered once before. I have a college degree, am a skydiver, used to be a BASE jumper (7 years), scuba diver, sailer, backpacker, and extensive world traveler. I have done enough reading in my life to basically be a permanent liberal arts sort of person, so Im a bit hamstrung, chemically speaking. Its nice to meet everyone, thanks in advance for your support and help.

On a whim, and with no expectations of success, I set off another attempt at a STB extraction of MHRB (powdered) fully expecting a dismal failure. But as fate would have it, well, it succeeded. Im so bad at extractions that even though I should continue with the process, I REALLY dont want to lose what I have. I used "Spicey Cats" stickied tek from Hipforums DMT forum which is apparently a combinative, simplified version of Lazymans tek, and/or Noman's tek. With 100 grams of powdered MHRB, around 13 tablespoons NaOH (I do not have a scale), warmed Naptha vm+p, distilled water, and after a double eye dropper decant, I intended to do a freeze precipitate with the five 80 ml warm naptha pulls, all of which came off as a clear as water, with no visible hitchhikers. I was under the impression that when I evaporated 1/2 the naptha, the remaining amount would be cloudy, indicating that it was ready for freeze precipitation. After a little more than half was gone, was still clear as water. I kept evaporating. When it finally started looking maybe like some texture or cloudiness was occurring, the amount of Naptha remaining was pretty small. Thought was a dud. Allowed to completely evaporate. Two days have passed. Like 50 little islands of furry, spikey crystals appeared on the pyrex glass pan. Many of these are white, some are white/light pale yellow, and they are of varying sizes. I have no idea how much. Maybe 1 dose. maybe 5? In addition there are some colorless crystalline patterns here and there. It looks pretty clean. Except for the thin clear sticky film which coats 75% or so of the bottom of the pan. Its not thick, you cant leave a fingerprint in it, and the islands of crystals seem unaffected by it, although the crystalline patterns are flat in this coating. The light thin coating doesnt cover the spiky, furry crystals. Honestly, I dont know what to do with it, now. I wasnt expecting this to work. Normally, anything I do chemically is a disaster and a comedy all rolled into one.

My actual question. I dont want to mess up by continuing further, is it useable now? I was anticipating scraping crystals off the bottom of the pan, chopping them fine, giving them good dry time and then figuring out dose. (I have no scale of any sort, and have been told that a scale that is actually accurate in low milligram doses is REALLY expensive). But as clean and useable and clear as the crystals are, to get them I would be scraping up this thin tacky clear layer, which in my limited experience is probably extracted plant fats and waxes. Im guessing this may make vaporizations harder? or make the smoke harsher/less palatable? or bulk up the amount of vapor to be inhaled? Possibly the film is something more toxic? I could use the point of a knife to axe out the crystal islands (with some loss, particularly the diffuse crystalline patterns) and physically eliminate 90% of this film, I suppose. But I believe Im supposed to use warm solvent to redissolve all this, then freeze precipitate to lose the plant fats/waxes, and, or do a recrystallization with heptane, but, again, Id hate to lose the progress Ive made by continuing my crippled chemistry. Plus, Id be back to square one in terms of not having cloudy saturated naptha except in a minute 30 ml amount, which Id guess is too small an amount to do this well, or easily.

Can I reasonably use this product? Or must I continue? Thank You doesnt cover it...

Ps. Im going to try and attach an equally crippled picture. Glass pan is square 8.5 inches by 8.5 inches. The crystal islands are like 30 rice kernels scattered over 1/2 the pan...more seem to have faint yellow tint now...

Yeah man you have a decent little amount there. What I would do here is start scraping and chopping and drying more until you hopefully have yellowy crystals. Little bit of plant material doesn't hurt or make the smoke harsher than it would be pure, as long as it's dry and not brown or something. And yeah, as long as it's not hashy and brown looking it doesn't really interfere with vaporizing. Dosing isn't hard. If you have a crackpipe style vaporizer just put a pea size wad in it and take 3 large hits for the serious ~50mg dose. Whatever's left in the pipe will be available next time.

Before chopping make sure it's completely dry looking, put a fan over it for awhile until there's no liquid.

True, but a cheap mg scale is far better than no mg scale

Appreciate the responses, am waiting on my glass vaporgenie to arrive, and for my massive head cold to go completely away, before I make an attempt. One question. I know the smoke is harsh, and smells/tastes like burning plastic, but is it intrinsically choking? A bad taste wouldnt necessarily keep one from holding the vapor, but hot vapor or chemically choking vapor (like burning sulfur) likely would....

Thank you!

I don't think it's as bad as it's made out to be. It's a funky taste for sure but most people don't find it that difficult to smoke. And definitely do not attempt until you're feeling physically 100%.

If you are asking about the taste when using the gvg, then no, there is no burning plastic taste, deffo no choking either. The first bit of vapor normaly gets felt in my throat, but that is only for like a second, then its just too smooth. In the dark i will even doubt if i got a full hit in, until things start to get weird
The gvg delivers a perfect hit of vapor.

The only time when it tastes really bad is when one really burns it, ita all about getting that right temp to vape the spice

Well, thats good news, everything Ive come across says tastes/smells bad. Im going to pick up a milligram scale and use marked weight calibration slugs to see how accurate the scale is, but approximately how much do you thing is in the picture? Pan is about 8.5 by 8.5, with fingers in view. Is that like 3 breakthrough doses, give or take? Thanks.

I would say more, but at that stage it's kind of hard to tell. Most likely more than 3 though.

I have (yes, right at this very moment) the same problem as you have.

The residu of my solvent (aka the crystals) are oily and waxy. I scraped a little bit on a spoon and tried to evap the solvent. But all the crystals just melted into solvent again (I didn't overheat tho)

I could try placing the scraped crystals directly on a sheet of paper to let them dry smoother? (But i'm afraid they will disolve in the paper)

recrystallize. longshot. And check the FAQ for best way to retrieve it from the freezer/avoid melting crystals.

Thx for the quick reply Endlessness!
Something odd happened. The spoon in which i had put the residu (crystals) and which turned back to oil once i heated it, now has real crystals!
I left it under the lamp of my desk for about 30min and
the oil turned into a surface like very thin ice looks.
I chopped&stirred it, looks ok for now. Nice white colour.

Tonight shall (if i smoke correctly) be my first DMT-trip