I am confused about what happens in a these visions on dmt or ibogaine. It sounds like you are walking in a forest etc, but then your real body also does the same?

how do you prevent yourself from leaving the apartment or calling someone you don't want and saying bizarre stuff etc?

no, generally you may walk away under the influence of deliriants like daturas ( not recommended at all, danger ), or in my experience you may try to stand up under salvia divinorum extract smoked.
Under DMT you stay immobile even if you feel like assisting the end of your world etc...
WHat may happen like under 5 meo dmt is if you took it stand up, you will fall down, prolly as your "spirit" detach your body.
so it is recommended to do it in a safe place ( not near a cliff or by a river where you could fall, or other traps in case ), not standing up, but rather comfortably sit down or laying down in a bad or in the grass.

By being in a safe place and having a sitter. They don't have to be in the same room as you, if being alone during trip is your thing.

If on a breakthrough dose of dmt you are not holding down on your matress as if for dear life, completley petrified, unable to even breathe from awe...you're a better man than me.

I'm not always glued... But often.

Even when I feel like moving around on DMT (post breakthrough, even sub brealthrough doses) it is extremely difficult to move around.

Yeh I agree I have never felt the need to get up and move around during a breakthrough...even if I could LOL but sub and post like dreadedshaman said its not like your going to get up and run out the door. I have had a hard time getting across the room to get a sip of watter (now I always keep a glass fairly close because of that) I always seem thirsty coming out of it. Anyone else have that effect?

I get thirsty but I think it’s cause I kinda get a weird fuzzy sensation in my mouth when I trip, like theres hair in my mouth... as far as walking around though... that’s a no go pretty much. The visuals alone keep me from even wanting to open my eyes, so moving or calling someone is completely off the table

Man now I am itching to try the full dose meo. But not yet... I don't think I can handle this just yet.

There's more than one body.



So whilst your physical body just stays there, you use another to go elsewhere. Some of the others are multiversal / multidimensional, which is why the banishing ritual works.

Your question is basically the same as "what happens to the physical body when we are asleep" because we never really sleep (evident by dreams) we just shift into a different body for 8 hours whilst the physical one rests.

This is what I think happens to genuine mental people. One of their bodies never rests. Like insomnia for the mental body. And so they bring that bodies' duties into the physical.

Some religions / philosiphies talk about the "rainbow body" or merkaba which can be used to transport you to other dimensions...as the physical. I think this is likely true and happens when all of them merge. A rainbow is when all colours merge together...so it makes sense.

My body always tries to sneak away and load more into the pipe.. but I manage to Channel very harsch commanding orders to stand down, from hyperspace..
When it tries to reach for the bottle of Ayahuasca then I usually have to call the 911 emergency Elf platoon to restrain it!

Last day myself took a hit of 5meo and pulled myself out of it and played with my 2 year old son. It can be done but very hard and like a bad trip, secret stuff can be done also but that's for you guys to figure out.

This is pretty much me. The thought of getting up and moving around isn't even comprehendable during a breakthrough experience.